Trump Campaign Gets Laughed Out Of Court For Claiming A Bunch Of Unvetted Webform Submissions Is 'Evidence' Of Voter Fraud

from the who-needs-sworn-statements-when-you-have-a-CAPTCHA dept

The Trump Campaign is back in court, hoping to reclaim a presidency Donald Trump has lost. It spent plenty of time in court prior to the election, hoping to prevent as many people as possible from voting. Now, it's doing the same thing, insisting (without evidence) there's voter fraud everywhere.

Immediately following Election Day, the Trump campaign opened its own voter fraud hotlines. People who thought they observed voting fraud were encouraged to call the campaign or submit sworn statements via a handful of websites. Both offerings were immediately swamped by pranksters and other non-fans of Trump, tying up phone lines and filling the webform coffers with useless things like, say, the script from "Bee Movie."

Undeterred by a lack of credible fraud accusations, the Trump campaign still attempted to submit some of its mostly unvetted webform garbage as "evidence" in its Arizona lawsuit. As Adam Klasfield reports, the judge wasn't impressed by the campaign's attempt to portray a bunch of statements from internet randos as something worth the court's time and attention.

A Trump campaign attorney conceded in court on Thursday morning that he tried to enter hundreds of dodgy form-filed affidavits into evidence, even though their own investigation found that a subset of the sworn statements that they received were filled with lies and “spam.”

“This is concerning,” Judge Daniel Kiley, from Arizona’s Maricopa County, remarked with some understatement.

This wasn't the only laughable assertion by Trump campaign attorney, Kory Langhofer. On the record and in front of a judge, Langhofer said the campaign was confident it had weeded out bot submissions because the site had a CAPTCHA.

Then he got even stupider by claiming the narratives the Trump campaign couldn't immediately disprove must be truthful representations. Not being able to prove something is a lie isn't the same thing as finding it to be true, the judge pointed out.

Judge Kiley replied that this did not show the remaining affidavits are trustworthy.

“That just shows you cannot disprove what’s asserted,” Kiley noted.

Then, despite entering the legal arena to dispute alleged fraud, the Trump attorney said it was unlikely anyone actually engaged in fraud.

“This is not a fraud case,” Langhofer said, casting the lawsuit instead as allegations of flaws within the voting system. “It is not a stealing-the-election case.”

It appears the Trump campaign's lawyer isn't getting the talking points memos. There have been wild, widespread accusations of voter fraud from both the outgoing president and many of his administration figureheads, which for some reason include his children and his children's spouses.

The Trump campaign thinks a webform and a hotline that will coddle conspiracy theorists when not swamped by pranksters is going to help it win back an election. Good luck with that. But it will make for some great popcorn munching as the campaign and its attorneys continue to embarrass themselves in courtrooms around the nation until every last avenue for redress has been (in all senses of the word) exhausted.

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    Thad (profile), 16 Nov 2020 @ 10:21am

    Re:

    The real purpose is to delay certification of the election results past the December deadline.

    But it's looking pretty clear that's not going to happen either. Lawsuits are getting thrown out by incredulous judges at a rapid clip. The Trump team's arguments simply aren't good, and I don't see any indication that they're going to stop any states from certifying their results by the deadline.

    As I understand it, they can't currently do that, but SCOTUS might be willing to hand them that power now that they have Barrett. They were previously split 4-4 on the issue.

    The states have about three weeks left to try it and then appeal to the Supreme Court before the deadline to certify the votes. So far, none have given any indication that that's the route they plan to pursue.

    It also bears noting that this isn't 2000; the election hasn't come down to one single state. Say Pennsylvania doesn't certify its EVs by the deadline, or the legislature picks a new set of electors, somehow, despite the state having a Democratic governor, and Pennsylvania casts its EVs for Trump. What happens then? Biden still wins. He has 306 EVs. He needs 270. Take away Pennsylvania's 20 and he's got...286.

    So okay. What if it's Pennsylvania and Georgia? That takes away another 16 and gets him to...exactly 270. Biden still wins.

    This isn't as simple as 2000 was. Bush only had to steal one state. Trump is going to have to steal at least three (or perhaps steal the two biggest swing states and get at least one faithless elector to cast a vote for him).

    It's not gonna happen.


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