Senator Tillis Is Mad That Twitter Won't Testify About Copyright Infringement; Since When Is Twitter A Piracy Problem?

from the weird-all-around dept

After writing about the MPA/RIAA’s ever-shifting targets of who to freak out about regarding copyright infringement, it helps to take each new target with a grain of salt. They were mad about Napster, then LimeWire, then YouTube, then cyberlockers/cloud storage. And now, apparently the target is… random social media sites? There’s been plenty of attention recently over the RIAA turning its attention to… background music in Twitch streams. But who the hell thinks that Twitter is some den of piracy? Apparently, the recording industry does.

Senator Thom Tillis, who is leading a new effort to completely overhaul copyright law is apparently angry that Twitter chose not to send someone to a hearing he’s holding in mid-December.

The letter that Tillis sent to Twitter in response to this decision is way over the top. Unless subpoenaed, appearing before Congress is very much voluntary. People and companies refuse to appear all the time. And even if there was a subpoena, it seems worth noting that it’s Tillis’ party that has decided that ignoring Congressional subpoenas is just fine and dandy.

But, really, the bigger issue here is why is Twitter even a target at all? No one thinks about Twitter as a source for copyright infringing materials. And Twitter has always been known to be responsive to DMCA takedowns. They have a whole section in their transparency report about copyright takedown notices. That certainly shows that Twitter is very responsive to DMCA notices. It does highlight how it has refused to comply with some notices, but those are in cases where it’s clearly abuse of the DMCA for censorship, such as when a bunch of DMCA notices were sent to try to silence critics of the Ecuadorian government.

In fact, if anything, we’ve often seen Twitter be too responsive to questionable DMCA takedown notices, like the time it pulled down a Trump campaign video (remember, Tillis is a big Trump supporter) over a highly questionable copyright claim.

And yet, here’s Tillis trying to make it sound like Twitter is a den of piracy that ignores copyright takedowns.

But Twitter has been less engaged in working with copyright owners on voluntary measures and technological tools, and now has rebuffed my request to testify. The only reasonable conclusion one can draw from your actions is that Twitter simply does not take copyright piracy seriously.

Or, maybe, the nature of Twitter (mostly short bursts of text) is not at all conducive to some RIAA supported show trial about piracy. But it’s really in the detailed questions in which Tillis gives away the game. The RIAA wants to force every website that hosts 3rd party content to have to buy a sitewide license. This is what Article 17 was all about in the EU, and Tillis more or less admits it with this question:

I have heard that Twitter has been slow to respond to copyright infringement on its platform and also refused to negotiate licenses or business agreements with music publishers or record labels. In contrast, other major-social media companies have done the right thing and mitigated infringing activity on their platfoms by entering into negotiated license agreements to allow uses of music. Does Twitter seek licenses for the use of music? If so, in what instances? Has Twitter made efforts to negotiate license agreements with music publishers and record labels to ensure songwriters- and artists are compensated?

No one is going to Twitter as a way to get music. If music appears in video snippets on Twitter it’s almost entirely incidental. And Twitter has shown that it’s absolutely responsive to DMCA notices (see the Trump campaign ad takedown mentioned above). This is entirely about the RIAA trying to get the US government to force every website to just write them a big check every year.

Despite the tremendous value that music brings to Twitter?s business, your platform continues to host and permit rampant infringement of music files on its platform

What? No. That’s literally not happening, and music is not providing any significant value to Twitter’s business.

Twitter has not taken meaningful steps to address the scale of the problem.

It clearly has taken steps and is incredibly responsive to DMCA notices (sometimes too responsive).

Instead, your company claims that it already goes above and beyond what the law requires. What steps has Twitter taken to ensure no unlicensed music is made available?

This is such a dumb question. It is literally impossible to “ensure no unlicensed music is made available.” Of course some will always be because of the broken nature of today’s copyright law, nearly everything anyone does involves some form of copying content without a license. In fact, many unlicensed uses of music are legal because of things like fair use or de minimis use. Demanding “no unlicensed music” is not only impossible, it literally is not required by law.

How many takedown notices has Twitter received each year since it launched in 2006?

This is a really bad question as well. This was the key tactic the labels have used against Google/YouTube, using the number of notices received as a proxy for how bad the sites are. But this is a number the labels have control over since they get to send the notices.

There are more questions, but the whole thing is clearly driven by the RIAA’s interests to force Twitter into just writing them a giant check every year. I mean, I guess it worked against YouTube and Facebook (where at least there was some argument to be made that music was a bigger deal), so now they’ve moved on to other sites like Twitch and Twitter. But forcing every website to sign a license is crazy, not required by law, and acting as if the failure to sign a license is some indictment of how Twitter feels about copyright is complete nonsense.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'How dare you not step into the trap I laid?!'

But Twitter has been less engaged in working with copyright owners on voluntary measures and technological tools, and now has rebuffed my request to testify. The only reasonable conclusion one can draw from your actions is that Twitter simply does not take copyright piracy seriously.

Or just maybe they saw the absolute farce that other companies have had to put up with recently where they’ll show up for a hearing only to be grilled and presented with lies, insults and loaded questions and decided not to play along?

With a response like this I’d say any hopes that he might recognize that copyright is broken and want to fix it have been thoroughly killed and put to rest, as talking points and claims like that do not come from someone who is going to be interested in aiding the public’s side of copyright law.

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Anonymous Coward says:

The RIAA is going after Twitter and other social media sites because they have to make up the revenue from strong-arming restaurants into paying fees for playing music in public. Since most restaurants and bars are closed, they have to find someone else to extort money from. Cocaine is expensive.

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Anonymous Coward says:

In fact, many unlicensed uses of music are legal because of things like fair use or de minimis use.

Or when no copyright obtains because of public domain.

But also, when explicitly licensed by (for instance) CC0. Since the RIAA isn’t actually looking up whether you have a license to distribute the music, CC0 use looks identical to unlicensed.

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Designerfx (profile) says:

it's stuff like this

Things like this have reminded me why I vowed to never spend another penny that can ever go to contributing to RIAA/MPAA wallets ever again. Either I get things third party or I get them from independent musicians/artists/actors who have no association. The only thing the RIAA/MPAA has done to society over the years is a significant number of bad things, ranging from getting people to not share ideas due to copyright, to believing false information from movie magic.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Dear Senator:

Thank you for your kind invitation to testify.

However, whoever told you that our site depends on music was too stupid to breathe without instructions. As you can easily verify by visiting the website–any nine-year-old can tell you how–this website depends on contributions of short (128-character) text comments from all sorts of people, the large majority of whom are not musicians.

Once you’ve done your due-diligence checking, you can put your idiotic communicant on your list of people to never communicate with again. If you should ever consider legislation that was in any way relevant to our website, we’d be happy to provide whatever information we can. But you can clearly see that this issue simply does not apply in any way to us. (How many minutes of video, infringing or otherwise, can you fit into 128 characters of text?)

Thanks again for the invitation. We wish we could help you, but i suspect unmasking your idiot communicant will in the long run save you more time than any other testimony we could give.

Sincerely,
All the folk at twitter.

Bobvious says:

Re: minutes of video you can fit in 128 characters

Well, back in the "good old days", we only had WinRar which wasn’t good enough to compress a song into only 128 000 characters, but NOW!!!!! we have WinRarRarRasputin, which can compress a WHOLE Boney M album into only 128 characters.

It’s Я Є V Ф L Ц T ӏ Ф Ѝ А Я Y, Komrade.

PaulT (profile) says:

Re: The most plausible explanation...

It would also be par for the course on this subject, such as the times where Republicans have demanded Mark Zuckerberg to explain something that happened on Twitter.

It’s a little scary, really – millions of jobs worldwide and trillions of dollars on the line depending on their decisions on these subjects, not to mention all the implications regarding free speech and other fundamental rights, and these guys are paying so little attention to the details they can’t even get the identities of the people they’re talking to straight.

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GHB (profile) says:

If license are needed for platforms, what is the point of 512?

Section 512 (Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act (OCILLA)) means that platforms are not to be sued when they have zero intentions for piracy by having a DMCA agent and following the takedown notices when pirates upload unlicense content on the site.

It never stated platforms should have a license to avoid liability.

I have a feeling what he said that twitter having tons of piracy on their platform is most likely by the RIAA over-relying on the automated system without them actually looking at the flagged posts to see the actual truth, and then use that data on Tillis saying these are copyright infringement.

The RIAA really have a shitty year of 2020, the Youtube-dl debacle and other “stream-ripping” tools, the war against ISPs, and the dumpster fire on twitch (source 2).

PaulT (profile) says:

Re: Side note

Well, do they actually post it on Twitter, or do they just link to an external site in their posts? One would hope that mere linking is not infringing, but we know these people don’t pay that much attention to who is actually infringing, even where it does happen.

But, yeah, one of the primary reasons I have a Twitter account is to follow filmmakers and musicians I’m interested in supporting, and it’s a valuable platform for them.

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PaulT (profile) says:

Re: The RIAA is it is now is a den of parasites

The problem is, the RIAA does not represent the artists. It represents the labels, and the representation of a handful of major labels outweighs so many smaller labels, let alone independent artists.

They claim to represent the artists, but that should be the first lie that anyone dealing with them recognises. History is full of artists the majors screwed over.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: The RIAA is it is now is a den of parasites

They claim to represent the artists, but that should be the first lie that anyone dealing with them recognises.

That sort of lie dates back to the stationers company and the statute of Anne, where the stationers put forward the idea of copyright as an author’s right, knowing full well about all the author could do was sell that right to a [publisher.

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