Supervisors should consider the preservation of evidence as secondary to the safety of the public and department personnel
This is a strange sentence... I can read this to mean that if the safety (indemnity?) of colleagues is at stake it is also allowed to destroy evidence?
I actually start using it more sometimes, specifically with more informal, one on one calls, and with people I like because I haven't seen them in person for such a long time.
Personally I'm quite okay with this situation. It also allows me to do presentations to customers without going to their office which, in my case, could involve transcontinental flights. I can now do presentation in the morning to India and in the evening to the US. Previously they would've expected me to turn up in person. I do notice that doing presentations online is pretty exhausting though, more so than doing them "live" for some reason.
Now, if any of that branding out in the wild brings to mind Monster Energy, you need help.
Well, if I saw this in the wild I would think "I hope Monster Energy doesn't see this because for sure they will sue..." So I guess I need help to cure me of Techdirtritus...
While I do agree that FB and Google should pay more taxes, locally if possible, I also think that if you want to charge more tax, you have to change the tax code. Not do something like this.
Also tax is usually for the government while this is going to news providers.
I failed to present a compelling argument it seems, probably because I departed from a weak position (If your position is weak, look strong but don't engage, nincompoop - Not Sun Tzu). I think however that our views are not far apart.
I owe it to myself though to rephrase my position to try to wrestle it into some semblance of coherence. So, here goes.
We were talking about Government censorship and I feel that Merkel's position was quite the opposite of that. She was concerned that a private platform had the power to unilaterally cut off a man that speaks for 70 million Americans. We should here also recognize that Twitter functioned as the Pied Piper for all the other platforms who now felt safe to also ban the Trumpeter from their platform.
While we could like the resulting Trumpless silence, as I strongly suspect Merkel does too, we never make rules and legislation for situations where we like the outcome or when the decision maker is on our side. We make them for when the decisions are made by people that we do not like. So that, even if we don't like the decision, we can still accept that they were consistent and according to law and order. That might hearken back to Merkel's recognition of her country's dark past, by the way.
I can sympathize with that sentiment and I think that the situation bears thinking about.
Yes I know, weak tea "Let's think about something". Not a clarion call to action but it's all I got.
If people took the time to research and choose the platforms that best met their needs, we wouldn't be in the state of false dilemma where either a corporation or government has to make the choice for you.
Not quite. I can make a conscious decision to not go on Parler (and I did) but that still doesn't mean we, as a society, should allow everything that went on there. At the same time hypothetically a situation could arise where a platform is so powerful that you'd have a hard time avoiding it. If they started to moderate certain speech, potentially disadvantaging certain groups, that might be something that we, as a society, might not want either.
(note: I specifically mentioned spectrum, indicating that I don't feel that it's a "dilemma", so an either-or decision. I think there must be a system of checks and balances but I'm not smart enough to think of a system that would work)
I think you'd be guessing wrong. I'm confident she's acutely aware of German's history, especially since she was born in East Germany.
Despite its history though, Germans have a fundamentally different view of Government from Americans. Americans see government interference as inherently bad and something that must be limited as much as possible. Germans have a more benevolent look of central government where a high level of government involvement is required but you do need to ensure that the involvement is done in the proper way.
(Yes, the "positions" are exaggerated and don't account for a wide range of opinions existing in both countries but as shorthand I think they will serve)
Which now brings me to how I interpreted what she said. What I heard was that she was concerned that private companies have the kind of power that can switch off whole political organizations. A concern I've heard from many sides. In a more German (Merkel) view companies shouldn't have this kind of power but it should belong to a (benevolent) government.
It's a not unreasonable position to hold, regardless of your county's history. It's also not unreasonable to say you don't want governments to have that kind of power. To be honest I'm uncertain where I fall on this spectrum. It seems companies shouldn't act as our National Keeper of Morals but governments can also not be trusted unconditionally.
I don't get the idea that Trump will be the next kingmaker in the GOP. Rubio and Cruz seem to be betting on that, as well as this this guy Candeub.
In the last 4 years Trump has shown that he has the attention span of a mayfly with ADHD (see: TikTok ban), plus it seem pretty clear he didn't really want to be president, he just wanted to masturbate his ego. Also, he expects fealty but he doesn't return loyalty.
So, the idea that he will be supporting your run for president (except perhaps Ivanka) or that he will keep supporting your career, seems speculative at best but is more likely delusional. Once he's no longer president and there is no "Legal Defense Money" flowing in anymore, he'll look for other ways to make money or get the attention he craves. God knows what that will be but I feel somebody else's interests do not figure highly in that equation.
It's also not like this blind devotion doesn't have any downsides. By espousing his rhetoric, you pretty much make it impossible for you to attract center leaning voters.
And it's obviously effective.
The scary bit is that it's even effective in Europe. If you go on Twitter there are many people from Europe repeating claims from Trumpetters about voter fraud, Antifa etc.
If you are a European correspondent for the US just reporting the same as CNN or MSNBC or even Fox, your Twitter feed is overrun by people saying you're a liar, you don't know anything about it and that, like all main stream media, you are in the pay of the dark deep state pedophile cabal that's ruling the world.
I swear that if they were up to their ankles in water in their basement and the msm was claiming their street was flooded, first they would go on 8kun, or where-ever they go nowadays, to check if it isn't some nefarious Soros plot to sell you sump pumps.
Not sure what you have but there is no immunity for legislators in The Netherlands. Wilders was/is (not sure where the appeal is) actually on trial for some statements he made during a campaign rally which were deemed racist.
The prime minister already made it quite clear that this will not go far. He didn't exactly use the word "Go fuck yourself" but it was close. Also, to my best knowledge, the law that was referred to in the article was actually abolished as of this year, so I don't think Gollum has a case.
So, what will happen is that Erdogan gives Wilders a fantastic international platform to spread his ideology. Wilders will simply be able to point at Erdogan and yell that he's being suppressed and that it's evidence of Muslim retarded ideology/religion. I predict an additional 5 seats in the polls for dear Geert.
I'm breakin' tech in the hot sun
I broke the law and the law's gone
I broke the law and the law's gone
I needed money 'cause I had none
I broke the law and the law's gone
I broke the law and the law's gone
What kind of dumb-ass community would say your non-sensical post was insightful?
2 of Stephen's comments on this thread are marked insightful while none of yours are. So, draw your own conclusion. It seems you are too smart for Techdirt, so go away.
I have trouble parsing this
Supervisors should consider the preservation of evidence as secondary to the safety of the public and department personnel
This is a strange sentence... I can read this to mean that if the safety (indemnity?) of colleagues is at stake it is also allowed to destroy evidence?
Re: US Navy Pirates
Well, if you have the government's permission you are technically a privateer...
Re:
Same here. Internally we almost never use video.
I actually start using it more sometimes, specifically with more informal, one on one calls, and with people I like because I haven't seen them in person for such a long time.
Personally I'm quite okay with this situation. It also allows me to do presentations to customers without going to their office which, in my case, could involve transcontinental flights. I can now do presentation in the morning to India and in the evening to the US. Previously they would've expected me to turn up in person. I do notice that doing presentations online is pretty exhausting though, more so than doing them "live" for some reason.
Do I need help?
Now, if any of that branding out in the wild brings to mind Monster Energy, you need help.
Well, if I saw this in the wild I would think "I hope Monster Energy doesn't see this because for sure they will sue..." So I guess I need help to cure me of Techdirtritus...
Re: Re:
While I do agree that FB and Google should pay more taxes, locally if possible, I also think that if you want to charge more tax, you have to change the tax code. Not do something like this.
Also tax is usually for the government while this is going to news providers.
Re: Re: Maybe the link and snippet tax was a red herring.
Murdoch news helps liberal governments get re-elected.
He does? Do you know who owns Fox?
Incompatible with democracy
I think Murdoch is incompatible with democracy.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not a fan of history I'm guessing
I failed to present a compelling argument it seems, probably because I departed from a weak position (If your position is weak, look strong but don't engage, nincompoop - Not Sun Tzu). I think however that our views are not far apart.
I owe it to myself though to rephrase my position to try to wrestle it into some semblance of coherence. So, here goes.
We were talking about Government censorship and I feel that Merkel's position was quite the opposite of that. She was concerned that a private platform had the power to unilaterally cut off a man that speaks for 70 million Americans. We should here also recognize that Twitter functioned as the Pied Piper for all the other platforms who now felt safe to also ban the Trumpeter from their platform.
While we could like the resulting Trumpless silence, as I strongly suspect Merkel does too, we never make rules and legislation for situations where we like the outcome or when the decision maker is on our side. We make them for when the decisions are made by people that we do not like. So that, even if we don't like the decision, we can still accept that they were consistent and according to law and order. That might hearken back to Merkel's recognition of her country's dark past, by the way.
I can sympathize with that sentiment and I think that the situation bears thinking about.
Yes I know, weak tea "Let's think about something". Not a clarion call to action but it's all I got.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not a fan of history I'm guessing
Not a big fan of letting Nazi's fester out of sight.
Neither am I a big believer in the unlimited magic of the free market to fix everything. Making profit is a healthy driver. Up to a point.
Re: Re: Re: Not a fan of history I'm guessing
If people took the time to research and choose the platforms that best met their needs, we wouldn't be in the state of false dilemma where either a corporation or government has to make the choice for you.
Not quite. I can make a conscious decision to not go on Parler (and I did) but that still doesn't mean we, as a society, should allow everything that went on there. At the same time hypothetically a situation could arise where a platform is so powerful that you'd have a hard time avoiding it. If they started to moderate certain speech, potentially disadvantaging certain groups, that might be something that we, as a society, might not want either.
(note: I specifically mentioned spectrum, indicating that I don't feel that it's a "dilemma", so an either-or decision. I think there must be a system of checks and balances but I'm not smart enough to think of a system that would work)
Re: Not a fan of history I'm guessing
I think you'd be guessing wrong. I'm confident she's acutely aware of German's history, especially since she was born in East Germany.
Despite its history though, Germans have a fundamentally different view of Government from Americans. Americans see government interference as inherently bad and something that must be limited as much as possible. Germans have a more benevolent look of central government where a high level of government involvement is required but you do need to ensure that the involvement is done in the proper way.
(Yes, the "positions" are exaggerated and don't account for a wide range of opinions existing in both countries but as shorthand I think they will serve)
Which now brings me to how I interpreted what she said. What I heard was that she was concerned that private companies have the kind of power that can switch off whole political organizations. A concern I've heard from many sides. In a more German (Merkel) view companies shouldn't have this kind of power but it should belong to a (benevolent) government.
It's a not unreasonable position to hold, regardless of your county's history. It's also not unreasonable to say you don't want governments to have that kind of power. To be honest I'm uncertain where I fall on this spectrum. It seems companies shouldn't act as our National Keeper of Morals but governments can also not be trusted unconditionally.
Re: Re: THEY WERE OPPRESSED AMERICANSS PATRIOTS!
THESE PATRIOTS CONSISTED OF REGULAR AMERICANS CARRYING THE AMERICAN FLAG
Well, some of them were more into other flags:
https://twitter.com/BrandiLynn4Ever/status/1347046798926471175
and:
https://twitter.com/lindy li/status/1347378629903314944
Re: 'Is he in the cult? Yes? That's all that's required.'
When it comes to Trump's GOP
I don't get the idea that Trump will be the next kingmaker in the GOP. Rubio and Cruz seem to be betting on that, as well as this this guy Candeub.
In the last 4 years Trump has shown that he has the attention span of a mayfly with ADHD (see: TikTok ban), plus it seem pretty clear he didn't really want to be president, he just wanted to masturbate his ego. Also, he expects fealty but he doesn't return loyalty.
So, the idea that he will be supporting your run for president (except perhaps Ivanka) or that he will keep supporting your career, seems speculative at best but is more likely delusional. Once he's no longer president and there is no "Legal Defense Money" flowing in anymore, he'll look for other ways to make money or get the attention he craves. God knows what that will be but I feel somebody else's interests do not figure highly in that equation.
It's also not like this blind devotion doesn't have any downsides. By espousing his rhetoric, you pretty much make it impossible for you to attract center leaning voters.
Re: Re: Ah yes, the 'No, you are!' ploy
And it's obviously effective.
The scary bit is that it's even effective in Europe. If you go on Twitter there are many people from Europe repeating claims from Trumpetters about voter fraud, Antifa etc.
If you are a European correspondent for the US just reporting the same as CNN or MSNBC or even Fox, your Twitter feed is overrun by people saying you're a liar, you don't know anything about it and that, like all main stream media, you are in the pay of the dark deep state pedophile cabal that's ruling the world.
I swear that if they were up to their ankles in water in their basement and the msm was claiming their street was flooded, first they would go on 8kun, or where-ever they go nowadays, to check if it isn't some nefarious Soros plot to sell you sump pumps.
Dream big?
So, who should be his successor? Who would be the best pick to help the FCC forward?
Re:
So by this theory, requiring, say, Apple, to create back doors in their software is unconstitutional?
Came here to say exactly that...
Re:
Not sure what you have but there is no immunity for legislators in The Netherlands. Wilders was/is (not sure where the appeal is) actually on trial for some statements he made during a campaign rally which were deemed racist.
The prime minister already made it quite clear that this will not go far. He didn't exactly use the word "Go fuck yourself" but it was close. Also, to my best knowledge, the law that was referred to in the article was actually abolished as of this year, so I don't think Gollum has a case.
So, what will happen is that Erdogan gives Wilders a fantastic international platform to spread his ideology. Wilders will simply be able to point at Erdogan and yell that he's being suppressed and that it's evidence of Muslim retarded ideology/religion. I predict an additional 5 seats in the polls for dear Geert.
(untitled comment)
I'm breakin' tech in the hot sun
I broke the law and the law's gone
I broke the law and the law's gone
I needed money 'cause I had none
I broke the law and the law's gone
I broke the law and the law's gone
Re: Fox News will get it right
True. They looked at the story before the NY Post had it and didn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole.
Re: Re: (which you’ve proven you can’t)
What kind of dumb-ass community would say your non-sensical post was insightful?
2 of Stephen's comments on this thread are marked insightful while none of yours are. So, draw your own conclusion. It seems you are too smart for Techdirt, so go away.
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