Canadian Muslim Who Sends Text Urging His Employees To 'Blow Away' The Competition Arrested As A 'Terror' Suspect

from the common-sense-is-dead dept

Boing Boing points us to the crazy story of Saad Allami, a sales manager in Quebec — who is Muslim — who sent a text message to some colleagues heading to New York for a trade show, in which he encouraged them to “blow away” the competition. He (quite reasonably) says that he was trying to “pump up” his staff. However, apparently Canadian law enforcement thought differently and arrested him, detained him for a day, searched his house and repeatedly told his wife he was a terrorist. I recognize that law enforcement wants to be careful, but at some point, doesn’t someone run these kinds of things through a “common sense” filter?

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Anonymoussays:

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No kidding

I used to not really care, I used to laugh at the politicians who were failing to understand technology, the idiots who feel money dictates what is right, and the moronic shills in the comment section who cheer on the destruction of their freedoms.

Now it gets under my skin in a way that nothing else ever has. I spent 20 minutes reading the front page today to get caught up on the articles that I missed earlier. After the session, it felt like there was a demon in my skull trying to pound his way out to feed on copyright maximalists.

I almost hate to do this, but I’m going to have to scale back on reading tech-related sites like ars and techdirt just to keep from having a stroke when I’m 30. Maybe from here on out I should just adopt a policy of not caring about how politics hinders technology unless police start going door to door confiscating computers.

Marcus Carabsays:

Re: Re:

Why are you Americans so freaked out by poutine? Isn’t it exactly the kind of dish your country would love? You’ll eat cheese from a can, but not from in between fries and gravy?

There’s a place here in unseasonably-warm Toronto where you can get poutine with freshly shaved roast beef, sauteed mushrooms and peppercorns on top – and if that doesn’t perk your ears up you should go shoot yourself in a Denny’s bathroom!

Anonymoussays:

I knew someone in the 90s using a Usenet signature intended specifically to trigger searches for certain word combinations. The Secret Service just sent him a nice e-mail asking him to stop it.

Ah, for the days when you could troll law enforcement and they would get the joke. Of course, the Secret Service no longer needs to hire a nerd to run grep across a few thousand newsgroups.

Good Dogsays:

The ultimate muslim app

So now all that’s needed is the ultimate muslim app for the iphone and android, something that every muslim would want on their phone. The sneaky bit is that at both psuedo-random and predetermined intervals and dates the app sends messages full of terrorist watchwords to all your muslim friends.

Watch as government agencies all over the world routinely and collectively shit in their pants.

Anonymoussays:

NYT: Radical U.S. Muslims Little Threat, Study Says

(Canadians won’t mind being ignored (again) by US-centric media)

?Radical U.S. Muslims Little Threat, Study Says?, by Scott Shane, New York Times, Feb 7, 2012:

WASHINGTON ? A feared wave of homegrown terrorism by radicalized Muslim Americans has not materialized, with plots and arrests dropping sharply over the two years since an unusual peak in 2009, according to a new study by a North Carolina research group.

?[?.?.?.]

Charles Kurzman, the author of the report for the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security, called terrorism by Muslim Americans ?a minuscule threat to public safety.? Of about 14,000 murders in the United States last year, not a single one resulted from Islamic extremism, said Mr. Kurzman, a professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina.

[ . . .]

Josef Anvilsays:

Re: Re: NYT: Radical U.S. Muslims Little Threat, Study Says

“Of about 14,000 murders in the United States last year, not a single one resulted from Islamic extremism, said Mr. Kurzman, a professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina.”

If even 1 of the murders in the US was due to Islamic extremism, the problem would still be minuscule. Now think about the reaction. While I agree that the TSA employs A LOT of people, wouldn’t that money be better spent on more police officers.

The counter to that is to say “Look at how well the TSA is doing, we prevented terrorism.” I say great job, now can we cut back on the 14,000 fucking actual murders and not worry so much about the hypothetical plots to “blow away” the competition.

Pitabredsays:

You don’t seem to understand that this is a systemic police state issue, Mike. It’s the mindset. They ARE using their “common sense” that they should treat everyone like a terrorist so the real ones don’t try anything, and the end goal is to make people scared and compliant. Beat the citizens down and it makes the police’s job easier, when they can just do whatever they want whenever they want.

I’m not saying it makes sense. But it’s what happens when you have racist thugs going on their gut instinct instead of deferring to logic and facts.

Overcastsays:

How did law enforcement happen to get a hold of the text message?

They monitor whatever they want now – regardless of the legality of it.

“Law Enforcement” obviously does not care it they follow the law, only if they are busting down common citizens who don’t – or well, even those who are following the law obviously.

It’s really a stretch to call them “Law Enforcement” anymore – they do not meet the definition for that now.

Bigotry reigns

Hmm… do we smell bigotry here? Stupid bigotry. To call him a terrorist under these condition says that these public servants do not 1) like anyone who is not like them (highly biased), and 2) they don’t get out much. Maybe they are not let out much.

I do like the question about how did the law enforcement get a hold of the Tweet and as far as Police State I am afraid that this is where we are all headed with current government/political leadership in both countries. Note: I do question my own use of the word leadership under these conditions.

cradesays:

From the looks of the article, that is just his best guess as to why he was arrested. He more likely wasn’t given a reason at all other than he was suspected.

To be honest, our csis has earned a lot of leeway with me. I don’t think they should be allowed to arrest for stupid reasons or anything, and if it’s just a stupid mistake they should certainly pay retributions but their past history has earned them the benefit of the doubt with me and I’d give them quite a while to explain themselves before condemning them.

That Anonymous Cowardsays:

Re: Re: @techdirt

Sadly her payment was in pesos.
Because she did stupid things like spam every blog she could find, paying no attention to the fact the average reader here would never bother to follow this sorta jackassed posting.
You might think the trolls/shill might, they are weak minded, but they are to busy keeping up their correspondence with that Nigerian Banker who is going to get the millions to them as soon as the next payment arrives.

Anonymoussays:

I don’t have those issues, VPN tunnels are good for private communications and TOR can deal with the online stuff.

Governments are getting scary is time people start dealing with their privacy, with 10 of thousands of laws in the books on any one country anything you say can an will be used against you no matter how stupid it is, those people on law enforcement are in game mode, they don’t use common sense they want to see how many they can nab for the heck of it apparently and see who scores more in the office.

Lord Binkysays:

They knew exactly what they were doing...

This is really just a joke for the law enforcement that make these “mistakes.” The know perfectly well how they are in ZERO danger and then they get to show their good intentions while spouting the same “But what if I was right”/”It’s because I CARE for your safety.” This is the important parts to remember, They need to make sure people know they are there, They need to make sure people know they are working, and They don’t want to be in any REAL danger. Going after actual terrorists, drug rings, organized crime, is REALLY dangerous. You see this on individuals all the time in the states. Which do you think the cop prefers to try and apprehend, the pothead sitting on a couch watching cartoons that sits there wide eyed and says “aw… damn” when cops bust down their door, or the xxxhead that can flip out and fight until his muscles tear without feeling it. Which one do you see in the news getting caught more? Exactly.

m0dethsays:

yet again, LE goes too far

and repeatedly told his wife he was a terrorist. I recognize that law enforcement wants to be careful, but at some point, doesn’t someone run these kinds of things through a “common sense” filter?

Really? Common sense? How about a “Not be a piece of lying trash while you have no evidence” filter first?

That might come in handy, I’m so glad the world rests in hands as skilled as these.

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