DailyDirt: Storing Lots Of Energy

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The obvious challenge with renewable energy sources like solar and wind is: what do you do when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing? Solar and wind generators don’t tend to produce electricity in convenient amounts whenever we want, leading to wasted resources and further reliance on fossil fuel generators to keep up with electricity demand cycles. Storing lots of energy in an efficient way that can be readily recovered isn’t easy, but there are some solutions that could work.

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Jeff Green (profile) says:

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And massively smaller than my home city, but then so are all but 7 of the US states and over 100 countries.

Wales does contains 6 cities – Bangor, Cardiff‎, Newport, St Davids‎, St Asaph‎ and Swansea‎ – three of which are admittedly very small.

And it’s not exactly legally a country I guess, being one of the “Home Nations” part of the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but yep it’s a country 😀

mb (profile) says:

Chemical Energy

There are many bio-diesel systems available, Sources like wood-byproduct, agricultural leftovers, and even human waste has been used, but one of the largest drawbacks is the requirement for energy input.
I am surprised that nobody has planned a biodiesel processing plan powered by renewables. The output product could then be fed into diesel generators to provide supplemental power. The output of the diesels heat/gas can also be captured and fed back into the bio-diesel production process.

Ninja (profile) says:

Re: Chemical Energy

Careful. Brazil has this experience and replacing land that would generate food for fuel is pretty much fool’s gold. There are problems with soil salinization due to the reuse of the byproduct (that is rich in potassium), huge swats of land with a single culture and the obvious food issue. You need fertilizers (that come from petroleum), the transportation of food from farther regions means more fuel used (specially when we stupidly decided to use trucks instead of trains and boats) and you still need to control pests. So it’s not that good.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Angular momentum

I read a short story once where advances in material sciences allowed people to drive a vehicle with a flywheel that was spun up to near relativistic speeds. It was destroyed once in place and the resulting kinetic energy redistribution was more damaging than any chemical based destruction that could be smuggled into a city.

JoeCool (profile) says:

Re: Re: Angular momentum

CSB, but that’s just a story. We’re nowhere near making flywheels rotate “near relativistic speeds” and won’t be for decades or centuries. A flywheel spinning at several tens of thousands of RPMs is currently what we do, and is no more damaging in an accident than an internal combustion engine. If a flywheel failed, shrapnel could injure or kill one or two people, but that’s rather unlikely in the first place, and no higher risk than being injured or killed if your gas motor failed in some way.

Anonymous Coward says:

The trains up a hill strategy sounds awfully similar to the pump water up to a tank method that’s been discussed before. The nice thing about water tanks is that they’re probably going to take a lot less maintenance than using freaking trains. Further, having extra water higher up provides side benefits such as helping to sustain water pressure for small communities. There’s no reason not to combine the systems.

Andrew D. Todd (user link) says:

Re: Mining Skips, to Anonymous Coward, #6

There’s a type of freight elevator, used in underground mines, for handling crushed rock, known as a “skip.” A skip is designed so that it can be filled from a chute at one level, and discharge into another chute at another level, thousands of feet higher or lower. A skip would be simpler and cheaper than a railroad. If, for some reason, one could not use pumped water storage, a skip in a mineshaft would be a reasonable alternative.

Anonymous Coward says:

Salt water batteries

I recently discovered a company, Aquion Energy, that manufactures batteries that use salt water as an electrolyte.

Although they’re in production and available now, they’re still too expensive for me, but all they’re made out of is carbon, magnesium dioxide and salt water so I’m hoping the price quickly comes down to less than equivalent capacity lead-acid batteries.

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