Kaspersky Dumps BSA For Its Support Of SOPA; Says SOPA Hurts Consumers & Innovation

from the can't-support-that dept

Remember last month, when some SOPA supporters were pretending that because the Business Software Alliance (BSA) supported SOPA, it meant that all of its member companies supported SOPA too? Yeah, well, that resulted in the BSA backing down, after it realized (with some prompting from Microsoft) that perhaps SOPA wasn't such a good thing. It appears that that's not enough for some tech companies. Anti-virus firm Kaspersky has announced that it's dumping its association with the BSA because of its support for SOPA. The company says that it "does not support this initiative," explaining:
We believe that such measures will be used contrary to the modern advances in technology and the needs of consumers.
Perhaps the BSA will learn to not be so quick on the draw in the future to support every single idea to make copyright more and more draconian.
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Filed Under: innovation, pipa, policies, protect ip, sopa, support
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    TtfnJohn (profile), 6 Dec 2011 @ 12:43am

    Re: It's true that SOPA isn't for "consumers".

    The drop into binary thinking and options is almost always the last resort of someone who hasn't thought things through or to hide blatant hypocrisy or both.

    You've qualified more times than enough on both counts.

    As for Kazpersky they sell software supporting the Apache server, sell software that supports Linux and Mac firewalls and a host of other products. Some under GPL, some closed source. All of which proves.....nothing.

    Kaspersky also has open source code out there to deal with DNS failures such as finding existing sites a DNS server can't locate which needs only minor updating to get around SOPAs blocking provisions.

    The code, incidentally deals with a perfectly legitimate and legal response to an invalid response from a broken DNS server before you go off on a tangent about that being somehow evil and supporting pirates and stuff like that further illustrating your ignorance of the architecture of the Internet.

    As has been noted already, contrary to your and the entertainment industry's claims that piracy leads to a drop in sales empirical evidence shows the opposite in studies that can be verified as being statistically valid and then duplicated. Too bad the entertainment industry's studies can't do the same no matter how often they and you have been asked to bring one forward.

    People, of course, are responsible for being idiots if that's what they want to be and go to sites that are dangerous. They can do that quite well on their own accord with out any help from Kaspersky's software or any other malware program.

    Your insistence that everyone opposed to SOPA/IP Protect must, somehow be pro-pirate is disingenuous as is your support for an industry you otherwise claim to oppose and its influence in Congress. Why? Because it's anti-pirate.

    It's no such thing, of course, but it makes nice cover for legislation that is, in reality a protectionist welfare program for them. In the meantime it wants to force payment processors into denying sites money on the private, unassailable, unquestionable complaint of someone in an industry that has a track record of forever getting it wrong. and over reacting on the odd occasion they get it, sorta, kinda right. Denying the accused of due process along the way which is just another way of indulging in unreasonable search and seizure. That last bit simply isn't allowed. Read your own country's constitution.

    You're supporting a law based on unproven evidence supporting a mythic loss of income by an industry that is still profitable but is finding it hard to compete in a vastly changed mileau that they have no intention of adapting to. They once owned the distribution channels and controlled them and they want it back even if they have to lie to get it back, bring down copyright law in order to do it because the governed (aka the citizenry) withdraw their support for it because it no longer serves the intent it was supposed to support both inside and outside of the United States, attempts apply laws which amount to unreasonable search and seizure and apply American laws extra territorially in violation of every trade agreement the USA has ever signed and in a fashion that should, say France try it on the United States there would be Senators, Congressmen and others foaming at the mouth for war. (0verstatement. Not by a lot by overstatement.)

    SOPA isn't about customers, it's not about people going to dangerous sites to grab warez or that sort of thing, it's not about the artists and never has been, it's about the entertainment industry desperately trying to get control over something they will ultimately fail to gain control over...how products, ideas, music, inventions, software and progress will be spread and distributed in the future. That's why the tech industry opposes it, it's why Microsoft pushed the BSA to scale back its support and why Kazpersky broke with BSA on the issue publicly. Its why the entire open source movement is opposed to it. (Of course I'm sure you think they're all pirates, after all they just HAVE to be using the same illogic used by SCO). It's why musicians, writers, artists and others are opposed to it. Including myself.

    All in all then, I guess, in your binary world view I just have to be pro-pirate.

    I use open source software which I download or torrent for nothing from the distibutor's site (or worse yet that den of piracy called SourceForge), what I write is protected by copyright though I license it using a Creative Commons license that doesn't demand payment, simply attribution and I believe studies that say that, by and large, folks you call pirates are, in fact, consumers at the end of the day.

    If that's what I am, then, "aye matey, I am and damned proud of it, I am."

    Except that I have never knowingly infringed on anyone's copyright or patent in my life. I cite my sources when I quote from them, I use content as the artist wishes me to do from their own mouth and I could go on. I've never violated a patent that I'm aware of. (Though software patents are about as silly as plans anyone might have for human settlement on Venus.)

    For all that I'm a pirate in your eyes and so be it. All because I oppose legislation like SOPA in the United States or similar legislation in my own country. I refuse to lose my freedoms and liberties for the good of an industry whose height of innovation seems to be "American Chopper Senior vs Junior". I could go on. I refuse to support censorship in any form particularly when it's imposed by government in support of private industry not just in the personage of the RIAA, MPAA or some publishers group. We had that not too long ago in Canada meant to support a relic from the mercantile era called the Hudson's Bay Company. I don't want to see it again. And I sure as hell oppose corporate welfare in any form for any reason but most of all one that can't open it's corporate mouth without lying about the reasons it needs it.

    I'm told I don't suffer fools gladly, blue. That being the case I've suffered you for far too long. You're ignorant, a hypocrite and you just won't learn.

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