UK Gov't Considering Requiring A 'Porn License' If You Want To Look At Porn Online

from the seriously? dept

We hear this idea pop up every now and again, and I’d thought by now it had been shown to be pointless enough times that no one would seriously consider it again. Apparently, I was wrong. UK Prime Minister David Cameron is considering requiring adults who want to see porn online to “opt-in” by getting what is effectively a “porn license” to surf the sites deemed naughty by the government. Those in the UK government who actually think this is a smart idea might want to talk to their friends Down Under. Australia has toyed with similar ideas in the past, and they’ve all gone down in embarrassing flames. There was the filter that blocked educational sites, but left plenty of porn available. And there was the filter that took a teenager all of a half hour to crack.

Both of these highlight the key problems with the plan. Once you go down the path of censoring the internet, suddenly very, very big questions are raised about what gets put on the censorship list. It’s easy to say “oh, well, porn is blocked,” but something countless people (including judges) have struggled with over the years is how to precisely define porn. It’s not nearly as easy as many people think. In nearly every case with filters we see a pattern: perfectly legitimate content that almost no one would consider to be porn gets blocked. And tons and tons of “porn” isn’t blocked. Second, people will very, very, very quickly figure out how to get around such blocks.

The other issue, which doesn’t come up as often, is the sheer ridiculousness of requiring people to effectively announce to the government that they want to view porn. They describe it as an “opt-in,” but as I’ve said in the past, it’s really more of a “porn license.” People may have all sorts of reasons for looking at porn, but having to tell your government that you want to look at porn seems like a clear attempt to humiliate people for no reason other than that some in the government don’t like the fact that others like porn.

If there’s concern about kids viewing porn — often the “think of the children!” justification that we hear — there’s nothing stopping parents from putting in place their own filters (which are likely to be as effective as any national filters). Why go further and try to block things for everyone?

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:Lobo Santo (profile) says:

Business Opportunity

On the other hand, those who want porn but not to tell the gov will have to go thru a third-party of some sort–unless proxies count as porn too.

On the gripping hand, to be effective, they’ll have to block/monitor bittorrent (good luck), irq, ftp, every chat channel which can accommodate file transfers, and the good’ol sneakernet. Hell of a goal they’ve set.

I’d wish them luck, but there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell they will succeed.

Unless they put a little paper hat on their snowball, in which case the snowball will last a long time.

Anonymous Coward says:

if anything/everything has been tried anywhere/everywhere by anyone/everyone and proven to be an abject failure, you can bet your arse the thick fuckers in the UK government will come along afterwards and not only want to but will implement it. when it fails, like it has everywhere else, they cant understand why. how dim can you get?? but i suppose when you have people in government like Perry that thinks that a TV that is limited to between 5 and 500 channels can have it’s rules work on a communication platform that has infinite ‘channels’, what do you expect?

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Business Opportunity

“On the other hand, those who want porn but not to tell the gov will have to go thru a third-party of some sort–unless proxies count as porn too.”

The paranoid part of me thinks that proxies are the actual target in all of this. Between porn, copyright legislation, attempts to put in backdoors for government, etc. etc. etc., it’s almost as if authorities all over the world are attempting to foster proxies being primarily used for all the things they’ve made illegal. Once that’s done, they can legislate against the proxies, perhaps the whole point the entire time.

But then I remember: Nah, that’s tinfoil hat craziness. Governments wouldn’t setup false flag operations like that, and surely there was no Reichstagg Fire….

Rikuo (profile) says:

Okay, back to the question of who decides what is porn and what is not…what about the heavy Muslim population in the UK? Last I heard, Muslims believe in full body covering for women (hijabs and niqabs). So will fundamentalist Muslims be deciding that any video showing an uncovered woman is pornography and therefore need a licence to view?

For the record, I mean no offense against Muslims.

Ninja (profile) says:

Best way to “think of the children” is to educate parents to be real parents. And that includes having minimum knowledge of computers/internet and actually spending time with the kid (as in monitor personally the time kids spend online being there when they are accessing the web).

Nothing else will protect children online. Children learn very quickly how to circumvent filters and blocks.

Anonymous Coward says:

If porn is really so bad and evil, then why not take it a step farther? Why aren’t we outlawing real life ‘porn’, like you know, consensual sex, and letting someone else see you naked.

Sex and nakedness are what most porn is all about after all. So if one is harmful to everyone involved (online porn) then surely the other (consensual sex and nakedness) is just as harmful to everyone involved?

Capitalist Lion Tamer (profile) says:

Re:

Exactly. And a followup question:

If said porn license is required to view actual porn, will a separate license be required to watch non-porn sexual activity? What if I want to log in to Chatroulette and view random penises? Is that covered or do I need to be licensed as a “Manhandler Class C” or something?

Followup to the followup:

Is there anything out there that prevents Chatroulette from being nothing but wall-to-wall penises? If so, I have a friend who’s very interested in knowing the details…

Torg (profile) says:

It really is simple

I didn’t before I started trying to figure out how to hack my computer. As it turns out all that’s required is downloading one off of Sourceforge and running the program. Other things I learned during that process included what a keylogger is, what Sourceforge is, and what freeware is. A determined child with a specific objective can learn a lot very quickly when armed with Google.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Well this isn't going to help TD...

Eesh, an article that mentions porn not once but twice in the title! And then goes on to mention it several more times in the article…

This is certainly not going to help convince the german moral police(otherwise known as the German Media Control Authority) that TD isn’t filled the to digital rafters with smut.

TerraHertz (profile) says:

Licence the legislators

Can we please implement a license system for people who want to make up rules to restrict what other people can do?

It would need some kind of basic intelligence and technology awareness test, with a yearly re-test. Also a psych test, to exclude psychopaths, megalomaniacs and other lunatics.

A person would need to have this license before standing for election, or taking any powerful civil service position.

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