Techdirt Podcast Episode 27: The Rise Of The On-Demand Economy

from the beyond-uber dept

There are a lot of startups out there trying to become the "Uber of..." something, from valet parking to food delivery to dog-walking. But as much as this might look like mere bandwagon-hopping, it actually represents a fascinating and potentially important trend: the emergence of a new, highly efficient and flexible economy based around individuals offering on-demand services.

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Filed Under: economics, on-demand, podcast, valet parking
Companies: luxe, uber, wag

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    Mike Masnick (profile), 2 Jun 2015 @ 7:26pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "On demand"

    I'm not exactly making up the figure of $10, it's from your podcast.

    So is your argument that everyone should be ordered to be given more than $10 per hour?

    In real human terms, i.e, feeding and clothing yourself; the question should not be "Is it more than 0?" but rather "Will it put cheese in my fridge?"

    Are you arguing for basic income? We had a whole podcast on that as well. Or are you arguing for something different?

    For you it's a novelty to use your phone to get your car parked, for the poor guy (actually wouldn't there need to be two, or does he walk to your car?) who has to settle for whatever fraction of the $15 it costs it's a shitty wage.

    If it's a shitty wage, then there are alternatives in the job market for him. I spoke to both of the drivers that I used, and they actually seemed to like it -- noting that for both of them it was a flexible way for them to make a little extra cash (one was a semi-pro athlete and the other was an actor). And, no, it's not two. For Luxe, at least, they all use boost board scooters to get to and from pickups.

    People died to get workers the projections they have and it fucks me off to see outfits like Uber try to erode these rights to make a buck. It fucks me off listening to people like you champion this shit because it's "on a computer".

    Really? Look, I know the history of labor fights. I have a degree in labor relations. I spent years studying this shit. Don't tell me that I don't understand the history of this stuff, because I can almost guarantee I know it better than you do.

    And I think you're totally wrong. Uber doesn't "erode" these rights in any way. You're being totally misleading if you believe that.

    And I don't find it interesting because "it's on a computer" but because *it's happening* and all your whining doesn't change that. And, from a pure resource allocation standpoint, it seems to be making better, more efficient use of resources -- which is a good thing, even for those of you who don't seem to understand the most basic economics.

    It's OK for you to sit in one state and watch what happens in another, I don't have that luxury - where I live Uber is working on our central government to get laws changed.


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