Prager University Loses Another Of Its Silly Lawsuits Against YouTube Over Non-Existent 'Bias'
from the can-we-go-for-three? dept
Dennis Prager has been peddling complete and utter nonsense via his PragerU efforts for quite some time, and it expands beyond that too, because he’s been peddling complete and utter nonsense in his still ongoing joke of a lawsuit against YouTube in which he tries to insist that YouTube is biased against conservatives because they put a small number of his videos in “restricted mode.” This, despite the facts that (1) YouTube has no legal obligation to host his videos (for free!) in the first place, (2) less than 1.5% of people use “restricted mode” in the first place, (3) “Restricted mode” is to help parents block inappropriate content from kids, (4) the videos that were put into restricted mode had content that many would consider inappropriate for kids, and (5) most importantly, YouTube showed that many other sites — including those that people consider to be “liberal” had their videos put in restricted mode at a much higher rate than PragerU.
Prager still sued, and a court tossed out the lawsuit with ease last year — though Prager and his true believers keep pointing to it as some sort of “proof” even though it’s not. The lawsuit is still ongoing, sort of. They appealed the original ruling, and the appeals court recently heard arguments in it. I would be shocked if the original ruling wasn’t affirmed, but you never know (crazy 9th circuit and all…).
However, there was a separate case filed as well, in California state court. That’s because when Judge Koh tossed out the federal case, she focused on all the nonsense federal claims, and noted that she was also tossing out the state claims without analysis, because without the federal claims the case didn’t belong in federal court. So, PragerU turned around and sued in state court as well.
And now the state court has tossed out that lawsuit as well. The ruling is pretty thorough and makes fairly quick work of calling out PragerU’s ridiculous legal theories for what they are. I’ve seen more than a few people kicked off of social media platforms insist that California law is on their side, based on some odd readings of both the California Constitution and the so-called Unruh Act. Prager uses both in this case (even though it’s not even for being kicked off a platform, just moderated). And the court doesn’t buy it. It laughs off the idea that California’s constitutional protections of free speech mean YouTube is required to host your nonsense:
it is apparent that Prager does not state a claim under the California Constitution. Prager contends that ?YouTube is the cyber equivalent of a town square where citizens exchange ideas on matters of public interest? and that defendants have opened their platform to the public by advertising its use for this purpose. However, Prager does not allege that it has been denied access to the core YouTube service. Rather, it urges that its access to ?Restricted Mode? and YouTube?s advertising service has been restricted. Prager does not persuade the Court that these services are freely open to the public or are the functional equivalent of a traditional public forum like a town square or a central business district. Considering ?the nature, purpose, and primary use of the property; the extent and nature of the public invitation to use the property; and the relationship between the ideas sought to be presented and the purpose of the property?s occupants? (Albertson?s, Inc. v. Young (2003) 107 Cal.App.4th at p. 119), it is clear that these services are nothing like a traditional public forum. ?Restricted Mode? is an optional service that enables users to limit the content that they (or their children, patrons, or employees) view in order to avoid mature content. Limiting content is the very purpose of this service, and defendants do not give content creators unrestricted access to it or suggest that they will do so. The service exists to permit users to avoid the more open experience of the core YouTube service. Similarly, the use of YouTube?s advertising service is restricted to meet the preferences of advertisers.
And then of course there’s Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act which the court rightly notes makes this entire case silly. What’s interesting here is that the court actually does an analysis based on section (c)(2) of CDA 230. Nearly all CDA cases are based on section (c)(1), which is the part focused on correctly applying liability. (c)(2) is the part that directly talks about why sites should be free to moderate and not held liable for their own moderation choices. I’ve always found it odd that even in past moderation cases, courts have mostly still just relied on (c)(1) and ignored (c)(2) even though it has even more relevance.
Here, the court actually does look at (c)(2) and highlights how Prager misrepresents it. Here’s Section 230(c)(2) in case you’ve forgotten it:
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of?
(A)any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or
(B)any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to material described in paragraph (1)
PragerU tried to argue that putting its videos into restricted mode were not done “in good faith” as noted in part (A). First off, that’s silly. There is no evidence that anything was not done in good faith. But, more to the point, the judge notes that PragerU is actually pretending that part (B) has a “good faith” requirement, as that’s the most relevant section. And there is no good faith requirement there.
Rather than unilaterally restricting access to material on its core platform as contemplated by section 230(c)(2)(A)?which contains a ?good faith? requirement? defendants allow users to voluntarily restrict access to material that defendants deem objectionable for the stated reason that, like the categories of material enumerated by the statute, it may be inappropriate for young or sensitive viewers.6 The Court views this as a critical difference between the two provisions…
PragerU really leaned hard on the “good faith” claim, but the court says “nope.”
While the Court understands Prager?s argument that all three provisions of section 230 should have a good faith requirement, this argument is contrary to the plain language of the statute. (See Hassell v. Bird, supra, 5 Cal.5th at p. 540 [noting that Barrett v. Rosenthal, supra, 40 Cal.4th 33 voiced ?qualms? that Zeran?s interpretation of section 230 provides blanket immunity for those who intentionally redistribute defamatory statements, but held ?these concerns were of no legal consequence? where principles of statutory interpretation compelled a broad construction].) And while it is not this Court?s role to judge the wisdom of the policy embodied by section 230, there are good reasons to support it.
It goes on to explain that requiring good faith in all aspects of 230 protected moderation would force companies to regularly have to defend each and every editorial decision “on a case by case basis” and that would undermine the entire point of Section 230.
The court also laughs off PragerU’s ridiculous argument that YouTube’s content moderation practices remove immunity under (c)(1) because its moderation choices create liability (again, this would undermine the entire point of CDA 230).
In opposition to defendants? demurrer, Prager cites a number of cases that affirm the principle applied in Fair Housing Council of San Fernando Valley v. Roommates.Com, LLC, supra, 521 F.3d 1157, which held that a service provider is not entitled to CDA immunity with regard to content it develops itself. However, this principle is inapposite here. Prager does not allege that defendants developed any of Prager?s content or appended any commentary to it? to the contrary, they allege the content became completely invisible in ?Restricted Mode? or was simply demonetized. Applying CDA immunity under these circumstances does not conflict with Roommates.
A claim of “prior restraint” is also easily dismissed:
Finally, Prager contends that applying CDA immunity here would constitute an unlawful prior restraint on its speech in violation of the First Amendment. However, a federal court has already held that defendants? conduct does not violate the First Amendment, and this Court agrees with that analysis for the reasons discussed in connection with its analysis of Prager?s claim under the California Constitution. Moreover, Prager does not allege that defendants prevented it from engaging in speech, even on their own platform?again, it contends that certain videos were excluded from ?Restricted Mode? and/or were demonetized.
Lastly, Prager argued that this bit of moderation somehow was a “breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing under California’s Unfair Competition Law (UCL).” Again, the court has a quick “nope” for the legal geniuses from PragerU:
Prager does not and cannot state a claim for breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing in light of the express provisions of YouTube?s Terms of Service, which provide that ?YouTube reserves the right to remove Content without prior notice? and which also allow YouTube to ?discontinue any aspect of the Service at any time.?… Similarly, YouTube?s AdSense Terms of Service reserve the right ?to refuse or limit your access to the Services.?
The court also discusses another of PragerU’s laughable theories — that YouTube’s public statements that “the same standards apply equally to all” makes their UCL argument valid. The court again explains how that makes no sense:
Prager does not allege that it suffered a loss of money or property as a result of its reliance on this statement. ?There are innumerable ways in which economic injury from unfair competition may be shown,? including where a plaintiff ?ha[s] a present or future property interest diminished.?… The ?lost income, reduced viewership, and damage to brand, reputation, and goodwill? that Prager alleges… would certainly satisfy this requirement if there were a causal connection between Prager?s alleged reliance on defendants? statement in participating in the YouTube service and these harms. However, these injuries cannot have resulted from Prager?s decision to use YouTube: they could only have been caused by YouTube?s later decisions to restrict and/or demonetize Prager?s content….
In short, as basically everyone has said all along, there is no legal argument here. There is nothing but nonsense. Just like PragerU itself.
Filed Under: bias, california, cda 230, dennis prager, section 230
Companies: google, prageru, youtube
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Just check out the latest Real Time with Bill Maher where he’s making a total ass of himself claiming (among other things) that the facts show there was no quid pro quo with Trump and the Ukraine.
Unfortunately Baher comes off as an antivaxer asshat himself claiming "we know nothing" when it comes to vaccinces just because scientists have been wrong in the past.
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Same here. Not once did they mention herd theory.
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Unfortunately Baher comes off as an antivaxer asshat himself claiming "we know nothing" when it comes to vaccinces just because scientists have been wrong in the past.
Sure hope the person who said that has never been wrong in their life, otherwise it would seem that that standard would allow people to dismiss anything they might say because ‘they’ve been wrong before’.
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It reminds me of Ken White’s "some snakes are poisonous" analogy.
"Scientists are sometimes wrong" is a true statement, but doesn’t actually provide any useful information in and of itself.
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Not only that, it’s the entire basis of peer review and the scientific method.
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And here is Orac’s take on this:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/shame-on-hbo-bill-maher-interviews-dr-jay-gordon-and-the-antivaccine-misinformation-flows/
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Just to clarify:
Dennis Prager is making an ass of himself because of his comments on Trump.
Bill Maher is making an ass of himself because he’s an Antivaxxer.
Prager University is not a University – LOL
Think of the Children!
(4) the videos that were put into restricted mode had content that many would consider inappropriate for kids
Prager is also suing YouTube for not doing enough to protect children for harmful content just to make things interesting!! 😉
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Thankfully there's no bias here
cough
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Sup liar. Why you still here?
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Oh look, an anonymous coward. How quaint.
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Sup liar. Why you still here?
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Reported for spam. You just can’t stop making a fool of yourself can you bro?
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Sup liar. Why you still here?
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‘sup liar. How come you’re not providing proof of a supposed anti-conservative bias?
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‘sup liar. How come you’re not providing proof of a supposed anti-conservative bias?
Because if he dared show us the actual proof, Google would put a hit on him!
It seems contradictory to argue that YouTube is both a public square and YouTube should be forced to let you monetize your videos. There’s no obligation to be paid for making your free speech public in a public forum.
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Is the public forum public like a private golf course?
If I were in charge over at YouTube I’d ban Prager from the platform entirely simply for having sued me. Pissing on the shoes of those doing you a favor is never a good way to continue getting favors from those people.
These RWNJs like to talk about liberal entitlement without recognizing their own.
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Definition
Definition of "utter nonsense": Anything that leftists don’t religiously believe in.
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It’s not a right vs left thing you know, but your definition is the one that some dumb people use, smart people know that utter nonsense are mostly spoken by dumb people.
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That’s honestly the best you got bro?
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Definition of "utter nonsense": Anything that leftists don’t religiously believe in.
No. The definition of "utter nonsense" is "utter nonsense." Like your comment. That’s very much "utter nonsense."
Remember when you used to pretend that facts don’t care about your feelings? Well, the facts show that there’s no anti-conservative bias going on and the facts of the law say that even if there were (and, remember, there are not), that’s totally YouTube’s call. But, of course, the Prager-ites, who pretend to be against government intervention and in favor of a free market… get their panties in a bunch and go scurrying to the government when they can’t actually hack it in the free market and a company makes perfectly reasonable moderation choices concerning their content.
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Honestly, Mike, I think you sound ignorant. You constantly frame your arguments with an overwhelmingly heavy bias that I can’t even read your story without it feeling like a diss on conservatives. It doesn’t seem like you listened to the other side of the argument at all; merely, you combed through it looking for things to ridicule. It’s one thing to write an op-ed, going through both sides of an argument and analyzing all the FACTS of a story to draw your personal opinion, but it’s an entirely different thing when you throw insults around use your words to humiliate and/or bring down those you disagree with purely because you disagree. I think this story is a joke. I did appreciate that you included official court quotes, for that is something that many heavily biased sources forget to do. There are parts of this article that I’m not sure I agree on but at least you took some effort in procuring evidence. However, you often state your opinion as fact and that’s not how you prove a point. I want to add two important points to this discussion so that there is more knowledge on the table, rather than biased BS. First, the whole problem with the "Restricted Content" being restricted is because it isn’t being used properly. There are no vulgar scenes to censor and every video is either a calm, explanation of a political viewpoint or a history video. One video Prager U cited, their video on the Ten Commandments, was purely about the information on the topic, nothing violent or pornographic to filter. As I said, you have failed to try to understand every side of the story, and that’s why you have so much backlash in this comment thread. By failing to analyze from all sides, you sound like an ignorant, hard-headed dumbass and it makes people not want to listen to you whenever they don’t agree. My other point that I would like to bring up about the videos being put on the restricted list is that this "restricted list" is also put on the content filters schools, businesses, libraries, and other institutions use whenever they want to manage the internet usage. This means that high school kids researching for a project in their government class can’t use these videos as a resource because they have a content filter blocking these videos. I have a personal experience with this actually, because once in junior year (yes a high schooler is the one using their brain and yes indeed, that’s a biased phrase used to insult) I made a project talking about how our freedoms are given to us by the constitution allow us to do things such as speak our minds, no matter the opinion, shoot guns safely and in defense, and other things those on the political left may not like but are law. However, YouTube saw this video and placed it on the Restricted List, making it unviewable to present in my AP class. I had sent the video to my teacher previously and she saw no reason to restrict the video. If I have to sum up everything from this, don’t be a narrow-minded ass if you don’t need to be. If you want people to enjoy your blog or whatever the hell it is you do here, you need to be looking for the truth. I’m not saying your view is wrong; there’s nothing wrong with holding a strong opinion. I stand by what I said in this comment and I hope that this comment thread can become something more than a group of immature people sniping at each other all the time. I say this to both conservatives and liberals, for both are not going about this the right way. Oh, and Mike, actually think it all the way through before you put some bull like this on your page again.
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So when you attempt to appear reasonable and critical of someone else’s arguments, but then resort to ad hominem attacks, you’re undermining any credibility you might have been graciously afforded through the benefit of the doubt.
But when you claim you’re a victim of not being able to cite utter bullshit from a non-accredited "university" that traffics in partisan propaganda in an academic paper, you lose all credibility whatsoever. The only citation from PragerU that is legitimate in an academic paper is a quotation showing some of the false statements they’ve made. If PragerU properly cites their sources, then those sources would be the ones you could cite (if they are in fact legitimate sources).
In addition, the presentation of the issue as one of "two sides" is a false dilemma and breeds the incorrect perception that both sides are equal or that they both derive their perspectives from opinions that must be respected. Nobody is owed having their perspective considered, especially if their perspective is factually challenged and laughable on the face of it.
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I don’t see any part where I claimed to be a victim of not being able to cite PragerU, and I’m not entirely sure what you meant by that. You also are suggesting that purely because you disagree with someone’s opinion or perspective, it is invalid. (In addition, the presentation of the issue as one of "two sides" is a false dilemma and breeds the incorrect perception that both sides are equal or that they both derive their perspectives from opinions that must be respected. Nobody is owed having their perspective considered, especially if their perspective is factually challenged and laughable on the face of it.) If this were true, nobody would be able to have political discourse because it seems you’re suggesting that you don’t have to listen to anybody else, and you’re right, you don’t have to, but you are willingly ignoring half of the issue just because you don’t want to hear opposing views. That is illogical in itself, because you will never truly understand something without hearing all the information from opposing viewpoints. First rule of debate is that you have to understand the argument from both points of view in order to ever reach common ground. I would also like to see this "only correct citation" that you refer to because many things they talk about have a historical and factual basis. I personally don’t agree with everything PragerU says, but you used no examples to back up your point so I can’t agree with you either. And I find it hypocritical that you mentioned my ad hominem attacks, which I agree might have been unnecessary, but you use them yourself. In this comment alone, you literally said their perspective is laughable on the face of it, and I think I can safely infer you were referring to my perspective (or the opposing ones those who agree share). In short, I agree with your first paragraph and I apologize, don’t understand what you’re referring to the second, and find the third illogical based on what I’ve explained. Feel free to comment back.
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In the Future, PLEASE implement paragraph breaks, your wall of text is hard to read.
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Said the Christian.
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Leave us out of this, please. Prager is a prat and a liar, I want nothing to do with him.
'Now go away or I shall taunt you... what number are we at now?'
While I imagine they’ll just use this latest loss as ‘proof’ that apparently everyone, from social media to the courts themselves are against them in order to scratch that persecution complex and/or dupe gullible people into supporting such ‘poor victims of the system’ it’s nice to see yet another court basically laugh them out of the room, giving their arguments exactly as much weight as they deserve.
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Non-existent bias? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve seen all day, and that’s saying a lot since I’ve been on FB today.. The bias is real, and to turn a blind eye to it makes you look silly..
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The bias is real
Ooooh. Citation needed! Time to put the cards on the table AC.
…crickets
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This article carefully steps around the crux of the argument and instead focuses on a false dichotomy. Yes, left leaning channels are restricted if they contain content that is age restricted. PragerU’s videos are being restricted despite not violating any policies
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802167?hl=en
Another example of YouTube bias and social engineering would be them funding far left new outlet The Young Turks. While permanently demonetizing every video by conservative counterpart Louder With Crowder. Of course they shroud their behavior in a guise of morality, but it is all emotionally charged half truths. Anyone who ever watched Crowder knows he is not a hateful or extreme in his views.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/5/steven-crowders-youtube-channel-demonetized-after-/
https://www.mediaite.com/news/conservatives-call-out-google-investment-in-the-young-turks-th is-is-bizarre/
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Oh, there’s definitely a bias but not on YouTube’s part. Ultra-conservatives these days are biased against good sense, ethics and general not-being-a-dick. They’re biased toward persecution complexes, entitlement and being-a-dick.
Definitely bias involved here. Just not where you think.
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Those "Ultra conservatives" are Very Fine People and it’s wrong to ban them just because they promote "Racial Purity" and "Killing all the Jews."
Oh wait – it’s not wrong to kick them off a privately owned service and make them squat over at Stormfront.
I keep getting Nazi’s and the Alt-Right mixed up! No way the YouTube Censors couldn’t keep that straight…
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It’s a public forum, dumbass, that’s the whole debate here and Prager U has nothing to do with Stormfront because they aren’t Nazi’s.
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You realize that Dennis Prager was born an Orthodox Jew, right?
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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. The idiocy of the right is real and can be dealt with accordingly.
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Really?
First of all, I find it strange that this is apparently the first time in remotely recent memory that you’ve heard someone say that YouTube doesn’t have an anti-conservative bias.
Second, if the bias is real, then prove it. And by the way, if you can only show cases where Nazis or other extremists were banned, that’s not evidence of anti-conservative bias.
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This article carefully steps around the crux of the argument and instead focuses on a false dichotomy. Yes, left leaning channels are restricted if they contain content that is age restricted. PragerU’s videos are being restricted despite not violating any policies
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802167?hl=en
Another example of YouTube bias and social engineering would be them funding far left new outlet The Young Turks. While permanently demonetizing every video by conservative counterpart Louder With Crowder
https://www.mediaite.com/news/conservatives-call-out-google-investment-in-the-young-turks-this-is-bizarre/
Just goes to show that the initials for Prager University are a very accurate description of them.
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This article carefully steps around the crux of the argument and instead focuses on a false dichotomy. Yes, left leaning channels are restricted if they contain content that is age restricted. PragerU’s videos are being restricted despite not violating any policies
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802167?hl=en
Another example of YouTube bias and social engineering would be them funding far left new outlet The Young Turks. While permanently demonetizing every video by conservative counterpart Louder With Crowder
https://www.mediaite.com/news/conservatives-call-out-google-investment-in-the-young-turks-th is-is-bizarre/
I find this statement from the decision interesting:
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Even if the accusation were true (which it might be, but likely isn’t), viewpoint animus isn’t exactly something over which people can sue. By raising that point, Prager is exploiting LGBT YouTubers — or more specifically, the issue of LGBT YouTubers being demonetized and hidden from search because of specific words in their video titles and descriptions — for his own benefit. Fuck him for doing that.
If we go to the dictionary and look at the word bias then youtube has a bias.
Stuff gets removed for offending laws/morals all the time and the examples of removals I’ve heard of seem at least somewhat appropriate. Pornography, exposing crimes, over-the-top violence, various sorts of propaganda ect…
Youtube gets to decide what keeps its website a decent place. I have never seen any content from Prager. I don’t accuse Prager of having offensive content because I have never looked at it. But I don’t find their overall complaint convincing in any way.
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that was supposed to be "espousing crimes" but in the case of the Syrian war crime videos then I guess "exposing crimes" fits too.
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it’s short form of political bias, but yeah.
for all the money
for all the money he spends, he could have a Private server, and say/do/post anything he wishes…forever..
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But then he wouldn’t get to exploit the free infrastructure of YouTube and other social media outlets to spread his speech.
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actually, i thought he said he did have, and had cited the number of views at his site in the past, because… reasons. showing how his voice was being silenced or whatever.
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"he could have a Private server, and say/do/post anything he wishes…forever.."
Like most of these people, it’s not the platform he wants, it’s the audience. He knows that building his own platform is trivial compared to the hard work of attracting users, and he wishes to continue to use YouTube’s property to do this, even though he’s been told he’s not welcome there. They always want to have their cake and eat it – be guaranteed the benefits of using a popular platform, but not have to abide by the terms by which they’re allowed to use it.
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But he wants to be able to force his views onto an audience, and can only do that if he can speak where the people gather. The real objective of people like that is to make people listen to them.
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because running his ads on his own site would be like those tv ads for the provider you are already using, or the show you are currently watching. apparently he is one up on most networks and tv pipes in that regard.
So you are OK with censorship and blatant corruption in courts who throw a legitimate case out for what is essentially no reason?
If YouTube have "no legal obligation to host videos" then they are a PUBLISHER AND NOT A PLATFORM.
It really isn’t hard and if you support tech censorship you are the enemy, and a traitor to the West.
It’s that simple.
War is coming, censorship is a major cause, and you support it.
Shame on you.
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"If YouTube have "no legal obligation to host videos" then they are a PUBLISHER AND NOT A PLATFORM."
I’d love to see your justification for this statement. Are you saying that nobody who hosts a platform has any choice about what is hosted, even if they have complaints from customers?
Let me guess – you say this but support the rampant political censorship on the likes of Breitbart and Infowars?
PragerU and YouTube
You obviously have never taken the time to listen to PragerU at all – they are the polar
opposite of silly. They make more sense than your long winded drivel and have millions and millions of followers worldwide.
I look forward to the day that your writings are humbled into silence for the idiots you really are.
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Yes "stop having a different personal opinion to me" is just a great a comment as "I keep coming to a site I hate to tell people these things". Far better than trying to discuss why the opposing opinion is wrong or presenting evidence of useful content over there.
You do sound like an ideal mark for Prager.
YouTube showed that many other sites — including those that people consider to be "liberal" had their videos put in restricted mode at a much higher rate than PragerU.
I would like to see this study or how you came up with this conclusion. Who are "These People" and how did you arrive at such a statement. This kind of statement is why most people don’t believe others arguments. Blanket statements like just "Trust me" I am a professional!! usually information is given like this because it cannot be proven and I see it as a red flag
Another article by a Cultural Marxist Libtard commie!
It’s obvious the rule law is no more & the next Civil War is eminent!
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I see these OmoH commies changed your anon to add an insult to your post. Typical of infantile two digit IQ retards living in their mommy basement
Thanks for the information
This article was very informative for me, I appreciate the time you took to pull this information together. I am now convinced, that the laws must change. The biggest thing that bothers me is when I compare what’s happening on YouTube to how we handle public television. Public television has been around for decades, and we have established well-balanced, clear rules for what can be said and done in that forum, most of it designed around protecting young viewers from content that’s inappropriate. So, when YouTube restricts videos such as PragerU’s content, under the same guise (protecting young viewers), but any objective person can clearly see that nothing in that content would be barred from public television; then there’s a problem. I don’t care so much about claims of bias, but the fact that this is editorial control by YouTube. The entire point of the applicable sections of CDA 230 were to protect platforms that don’t exert any editorial control from certain legal actions. It seems that under the current way CDA 230 is worded, all you have to do is claim that you’re a platform, and the law treats you that way, regardless of how much editorial control is exerted on the site. We already spent decades working out clear rules for public television, YouTube should be required to follow those rules generally speaking, and if they don’t they lose platform status and are treated as a publisher.
Your title tells enough about your sites lack of respect for new reporting by showing bias that you are a part of.
Your articles carefully steps around the crux of the argument and instead focuses on a false dichotomy. Yes, left leaning channels are restricted if they contain content that is age restricted. PragerU’s videos are being restricted despite not violating any policies.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802167?hl=en
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Forget about the legalese. The fact that they removed these videos at all since they were not pornographic, etc to me personally is a issue of free speech. If this is the road we are heading down you here at TechDirt better watch out and make sure yo stay on the correct side. YouTube is a public forum and any content must be treated as such. YOU TECHDIRT ARE WRONG but you are entitled to your opinion wrong or not.
Re: PragerU
The fact that they removed these videos at all since they were not pornographic, etc to me personally is a issue of free speech.
They didn’t remove videos. They put a very small number of them in "restricted mode" for being inappropriate for children. If you think that’s a matter of free speech, then do you feel that movie theaters not letting kids into R rated movies is a matter of free speech?
YouTube is a public forum
No, it’s a private platform.
In fact, the only "free speech" issue at here is YouTube’s freedom to moderate content on ITS platform however it wants.
Re: PragerU
"The fact that they removed these videos at all since they were not pornographic, etc to me personally is a issue of free speech"
Then, you personally don’t understand the concept of free speech. Unless the government were the ones telling them to take the videos down, Prager do not have the right to use YouTube’s private property to broadcast if YouTube do not wish to host them.
"YouTube is a public forum"
No, it’s not.
From the title alone, this pathetic article is obviously written by an extremely angry liberal darwinist that tries desperately to hide from the truth by convincing themselves that their false religion of naturalism makes any sense, atheism is unnatural and leads to a life full of misery and hatred, until you die and suffer forever in hell.
The thing is that truth is not relative, it is not different for you and me, saying that truth is relative and is based on your personal beliefs is a self-defeating statement because you just made an absolute truth claim. There is only one truth, and in the end noone will be able to hide from it regardless of what you want to believe, so better search within yourself the actual reason of why you hate the truth, which is that you do not want to be accountable to your divine creator because of your own sinful nature.
The Judeo-Christian worldview is the only worldview that completely answers all of the fundamental questions of mankind which are origins (who i am, where did i come from), meaning (what is my purpose, why is this all happening), morality (where do objective moral standards come from, what is right and wrong) and destiny (what happens after passing away, the afterlife). Every other worldview has failed miserably to answer even a single one of these questions. It is virtually impossible to live without being grounded in the truth of the Judeo-Christian worldview, regardless if you choose to assume that your other false beliefs make any sense (which they don’t), everyone knows this.
The worst part is that you have not even realized that you are using God as a standard to even make your argument, because there is no logic or reason in naturalism/materialism which says that you are a sack of random chemials over billions of years until you become nothing.
The false religion of naturalism (darwinism) is the most ridiculous religion out there, the same foolish people who try to hide from God believe in completely ridiculous nonsense such as nothing created everything (scientific impossibility), primordial soups (laughable), life coming from rocks, "millions of years" nonsense based on false carbondating methods which are proven to be completely innacuratte by darwinism worshipers themselves, monkeys transforming into humans even though there has never been a single genuine transitional fossil discovered for any kind ever (because they dont exist) and other insane things, in the end the Bible is always proven to be correct. It is no wonder why naturalism worshipers are always miserable and in conflict with themselves since their hypothesis is full of nonsense.
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You know, it’s nice when you people just come right out and state that you’re a lunatic whose words should not be taken seriously. There’s too many of you that save that nugget for the last paragraph.
"The Judeo-Christian worldview is the only worldview that completely answers all of the fundamental questions of mankind"
Yeah, it tends to be easier to get simplistic answers when you based your whole worldview on a book of fiction. Things get complicated when you have to deal with things like evidence, especially when we’re still in the process of finding it all.
Re: Re:
Hi, Jew Here. You misspelled "Christian". You think we’re all going to hell.
Lucy Koh is a criminal and treasonous Activist/Legislating
Lucy Koh is a criminal and treasonous Activist/Legislating magistrate who like the vast majority of appointed by Democratic presidents and members of the United States senate or house of representatives of the Democratic party need to be charged with treason and immediately removed from the bench.
Take it to the Supreme Court Dennis that is if Trump does not wuss out and concede defeat in an election that was clearly stolen from him to allow the descendent of a Irishman who had a plantation on the island of Jamaica worked by Negroe slaves and she herself being a Crackwhore ascend to the throne.
Because if that occurs the far to many inhabitants of this nation’s major MSAs will discover very fast what happens when you are so delusional you believe the claims made by your professors and TAs, those mouthpiece deceit disseminating data source Bobblehead commentators, fantasy writers and Social media for those loyal marionette politicians for the Globalists, no you will not experience Playtime from birth to grave you will be forced into slave labor so the Globalists can live in godlike grandeur.
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Lucy Koh is a criminal and treasonous Activist/Legislating
Lucy Koh is a criminal and treasonous Activist/Legislating magistrate who like the vast majority of appointed by Democratic presidents and members of the United States senate or house of representatives of the Democratic party need to be charged with treason and immediately removed from the bench.
Take it to the Supreme Court Dennis that is if Trump does not wuss out and concede defeat in an election that was clearly stolen from him to allow the descendent of a Irishman who had a plantation on the island of Jamaica worked by Negroe slaves and she herself being a Crackwhore ascend to the throne.
Because if that occurs the far to many inhabitants of this nation’s major MSAs will discover very fast what happens when you are so delusional you believe the claims made by your professors and TAs, those mouthpiece deceit disseminating data source Bobblehead commentators, fantasy writers and Social media for those loyal marionette politicians for the Globalists, no you will not experience Playtime from birth to grave you will be forced into slave labor so the Globalists can live in godlike grandeur.
Why not let everyone put there opinion forward and let people judge for themselves.
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Lucy Koh is a criminal and treasonous Activist/Legislating
I guess I did express my opinion to this travesty of justice and my contempt to the psychotic writers of this trash sheet who write such nonsensical articles.