Trump Campaign Gets Laughed Out Of Court For Claiming A Bunch Of Unvetted Webform Submissions Is 'Evidence' Of Voter Fraud

from the who-needs-sworn-statements-when-you-have-a-CAPTCHA dept

The Trump Campaign is back in court, hoping to reclaim a presidency Donald Trump has lost. It spent plenty of time in court prior to the election, hoping to prevent as many people as possible from voting. Now, it's doing the same thing, insisting (without evidence) there's voter fraud everywhere.

Immediately following Election Day, the Trump campaign opened its own voter fraud hotlines. People who thought they observed voting fraud were encouraged to call the campaign or submit sworn statements via a handful of websites. Both offerings were immediately swamped by pranksters and other non-fans of Trump, tying up phone lines and filling the webform coffers with useless things like, say, the script from "Bee Movie."

Undeterred by a lack of credible fraud accusations, the Trump campaign still attempted to submit some of its mostly unvetted webform garbage as "evidence" in its Arizona lawsuit. As Adam Klasfield reports, the judge wasn't impressed by the campaign's attempt to portray a bunch of statements from internet randos as something worth the court's time and attention.

A Trump campaign attorney conceded in court on Thursday morning that he tried to enter hundreds of dodgy form-filed affidavits into evidence, even though their own investigation found that a subset of the sworn statements that they received were filled with lies and “spam.”

“This is concerning,” Judge Daniel Kiley, from Arizona’s Maricopa County, remarked with some understatement.

This wasn't the only laughable assertion by Trump campaign attorney, Kory Langhofer. On the record and in front of a judge, Langhofer said the campaign was confident it had weeded out bot submissions because the site had a CAPTCHA.

Then he got even stupider by claiming the narratives the Trump campaign couldn't immediately disprove must be truthful representations. Not being able to prove something is a lie isn't the same thing as finding it to be true, the judge pointed out.

Judge Kiley replied that this did not show the remaining affidavits are trustworthy.

“That just shows you cannot disprove what’s asserted,” Kiley noted.

Then, despite entering the legal arena to dispute alleged fraud, the Trump attorney said it was unlikely anyone actually engaged in fraud.

“This is not a fraud case,” Langhofer said, casting the lawsuit instead as allegations of flaws within the voting system. “It is not a stealing-the-election case.”

It appears the Trump campaign's lawyer isn't getting the talking points memos. There have been wild, widespread accusations of voter fraud from both the outgoing president and many of his administration figureheads, which for some reason include his children and his children's spouses.

The Trump campaign thinks a webform and a hotline that will coddle conspiracy theorists when not swamped by pranksters is going to help it win back an election. Good luck with that. But it will make for some great popcorn munching as the campaign and its attorneys continue to embarrass themselves in courtrooms around the nation until every last avenue for redress has been (in all senses of the word) exhausted.

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  1. icon
    bhull242 (profile), 16 Nov 2020 @ 10:04am

    Re: Obviously the author and many commenters hate Trump.

    You know what? I don't think Trump is leaving anytime soon, and I'll be glad if he stays. There's a criminal investigation of the Bidens and other sources involving actual fraud, unlike the unproven court distraction filings used to delay state certification.

    Unless you have reason to believe that the feds can find what all these people could not, and that enough of the votes would be changed to make a difference in enough states to actually change the results, I fail to see how that will change anything. Maybe it would make Kamala Harris or Nancy Pelosi President instead of Biden, but it still won’t be Trump.

    As for the comments from the Trump supporter mobbed by haters, just give up. There's too much bias for Biden to get them to listen and understand that Trump is the better candidate, even if he's not the perfect one. I'm sure they'll make fun of me for sticking up for you.

    Well, for one thing, if we’re biased, we’re biased against Trump, not for Biden. Most of us see Biden as simply better than Trump but far from ideal. We also don’t simply accept claims of massive voter/election fraud without substantial credible evidence and can do math. There were a few who claimed that voter/election fraud might have happened in 2016 that favored Trump that would have changed that election, but we didn’t believe it then, either. And that election was much closer than this one.

    Trump is a smart guy and many of his supporters are too. Trump is stalling state certification if he cannot get victories from the remaining undecided states. Even if that fails, I am certain that he will not concede power to the corrupt Biden administration attempting to succeed him. The million MAGA march proves Trump's support is strong and so long as he has this kind of support, I doubt he'll go anywhere.

    Slight problems with that plan (which is also fascist, anti-American, and anti-democratic, btw):

    • If neither candidate wins 270 electoral votes, then the election gets decided by the House of Representatives, which has a Democrat majority.

    • Failing to concede the election won’t actually change anything. On January 20th, whoever wins the election becomes President, so Trump will no longer be President unless he secures an actual win; he can’t simply win by default here.

    • If there is no President-elect or Vice President-elect and the sitting President fails to secure an actual win by January 20th, then the office passes to the leader of the House of Representatives: Nancy Pelosi. Again, a sitting president can’t simply win by default in such a case.

    • Did you forget all the people who marched against Trump? They were also in the millions.

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