No bots that admit they're bots (there'll certainly still be bots), no third-party clients that make the interface usable, more and more people turning away from the service and thus sapping the lifeblood of Twitter . . . it's really quite something, you have to work hard to untangle the network effect, but Musk sure seems to be managing it!
As an organization that runs an entire country, they meet the stated criteria for verification even before Elon relaxed the rules with the $8 option. If we're gonna ban accounts because they've committed real-world atrocities, I can't see how for example the CIA could stay on. I can agree that the Taliban, any U.S. military account, Trump, most if not all members of the British and Saudi and countless other royal families, etc etc should be banned from social media services in an ideal world. But barring that, it's probably better that they're verified as themselves.
And on that note, the fact that it's still trivial to trick people into believing your dummy account is a sitting U.S. senator is a much bigger issue IMHO.
You may we'll be right but ol' Bill Clinton didn't really put any penalties on DMCA requests that abuse the system through laughable legal premises, so they can file to take it down anyways, and unless you can fight it out and the eventual court actually doesn't find against you through specious logic (or relying on problematic legeslation or precedents), that's that.
Probably not worth it for a fan mod (which is why you should always think twice before doing something based off any corporate IP; at very least sand off the serial numbers ;))
Eh, that's explicitly cited in the article here. Hertz' statement as such is quoted, then Tim chalks that up to them not trying very hard. Hard to argue with that as it's undeniably true if Hertz is even telling the truth (if they eventually found it, clearly it's there somewhere, so someone manually pouring over things could have found it faster than, yaknow, years later).
Knowing law enforcement, I almost wonder if that's not even the truth though, and if they were instead quietly asked to not find the receipt, and then staffing changed and that directive got lost in the shuffle. Of course we're deep into Hanlon's Razor territory then.
Cops like these ones are sloppy cowards who can't be bothered to get facts straight or access any deeply-buried well of common sense/restraint.
I believe that should read
Cops are sloppy cowards who can't be bothered to get facts straight or access any deeply-buried well of common sense/restraint.
(I joke, somewhat, but the entire culture of policing is the fundamental problem here and desperately has to entirely change, and until it does I feel it's fair to blame all police officers for it.)
It'd be a good first step, but to fully fix policing we first need to fire all of them, otherwise the toxic culture will persist. Then we can start slowly and carefully hiring new police, while prioritizing providing funding and other support for community-run organizations instead of "traditional" policing.
Funny enough, you never see the folks complaining about "activist judges" come out of the woodwork when a judge does something like this for large corporations. Wonder what that's about!
Not surprisingly, Bell's and Rogers' ISP arms consented to the demand with no protest (as did Fido and Videotron).
A bit of a repetition there, as Fido is owned by Rogers.
Videotron used to be elsewhere in Canada, but gave up and now operates only in Quebec as far as I know.
I see Telus and Shaw (the remaining big ISPs) decided to take no position on these matters, which is at least better than enthusiastically consenting to them I guess.
And that's basically all the ISPs we actually have here in Canada. Good on Teksavvy for once again being the sole ISP we have here to actually stand up for its customers and the proper functioning of the internet.
Yeah, by the 2012 election it was pretty clear that Obama's political approach and policies (already a bit insufficient even in their campaign-promise incarnation when he ran in 2008) were not worth even voting for, much less supporting or apologizing for. I can't actually remember who I voted for in 2012 myself (it certainly wasn't Romney) but it wasn't Obama.
She was violating DART policy by shutting Adelman down and she compounded this error by making twenty-three "false or misleading" statements in her report of the arrest.
Having been accosted by police for having the temerity to take a photo myself, and then having gone through their report about the 'incident', that sounds about right. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's about the average for any police report, if they were actually thoroughly checked instead of taken as gospel like they usually are.
To be fair, there's a lot they wouldn't publish. Something very left-wing, or overly critical of D.C. power structures such that it might threaten their access? Never.
Seriously, the world would be better off without the NYT opinions section at this point. Hell, it's getting to the level at which it's calling into question whether the New York Times itself is worth saving.
Of course, I have a bit of trouble with the idea of things that are considered fundamental rights -- such as freedom of expression -- being "balanced" against things that are not fundamental rights, like "protection of personal data."
Well sure; and I would broadly agree with you. But the EU court's conception does have "protection of personal data" as a fundamental right. So they aren't balancing fundamental rights against unfundamental ones, at least in their conception. The U.S., for better or worse, has a very different philosophical/legal tradition on this.
So really the idea you're (perhaps quite rightly) objecting to isn't balancing fundamental rights against non-fundamental ones, but rather that "protection of personal data" is being put into the category of fundamental rights by the EU legal system(s).
Sorry to nitpick! But these are very important and potentially nuanced debates to have, and it doesn't help if different sides talk past eachother.
I think there's a degree to which Mastodon, and the other interoperable ActivityPub-based software that makes up The Fediverse, is about as decentralized as is practical currently (ex. people expect instant access from such services, which isn't really possible if things are fully decentralized, particularly considering many people live on their phones these days and that's not really going to be a node on a network of the desired caliber). And there's moves to flesh out the protocol to give individual users more control and portability, particularly on the Pleroma side (the Mastodon folks don't seem quite as interested, perhaps because they tend to run larger instances), so with time it might grow more into what you're looking for.
It's beneficial for a service/approach/etc to have a fully-functional implementation that people can use already in the here and now, which is I think a big reason why The Fediverse has been succeeding so far where many more idealistic and more decentralized (but otherwise very similar) attempts have failed.
Admittedly even some projectors are shipping with 'smart' OSes these days, but you can still buy just-a-display, you just can't buy a "TV" that is one.
Yeah, Masnick is right in a broader sense to bring up the impossibility of large-scale content moderation without false positives, but in this specific case of flagging Republican politicians as identical content to those from Neo-Nazis, that's not actually an inaccurate result.
Read this out to my officemate and we both very literally laughed out loud; well played. This certainly deserves first place in the funniest comments of this week, and sure has my vote!
And so we approach the end...
No bots that admit they're bots (there'll certainly still be bots), no third-party clients that make the interface usable, more and more people turning away from the service and thus sapping the lifeblood of Twitter . . . it's really quite something, you have to work hard to untangle the network effect, but Musk sure seems to be managing it!
Taliban *should* be on Twitter and verified, unless we ban many many more accounts
As an organization that runs an entire country, they meet the stated criteria for verification even before Elon relaxed the rules with the $8 option. If we're gonna ban accounts because they've committed real-world atrocities, I can't see how for example the CIA could stay on. I can agree that the Taliban, any U.S. military account, Trump, most if not all members of the British and Saudi and countless other royal families, etc etc should be banned from social media services in an ideal world. But barring that, it's probably better that they're verified as themselves. And on that note, the fact that it's still trivial to trick people into believing your dummy account is a sitting U.S. senator is a much bigger issue IMHO.
Re: Surely the only valid claim with a leg to stand on...
You may we'll be right but ol' Bill Clinton didn't really put any penalties on DMCA requests that abuse the system through laughable legal premises, so they can file to take it down anyways, and unless you can fight it out and the eventual court actually doesn't find against you through specious logic (or relying on problematic legeslation or precedents), that's that. Probably not worth it for a fan mod (which is why you should always think twice before doing something based off any corporate IP; at very least sand off the serial numbers ;))
Re: That's some disinformation timmy
Eh, that's explicitly cited in the article here. Hertz' statement as such is quoted, then Tim chalks that up to them not trying very hard. Hard to argue with that as it's undeniably true if Hertz is even telling the truth (if they eventually found it, clearly it's there somewhere, so someone manually pouring over things could have found it faster than, yaknow, years later). Knowing law enforcement, I almost wonder if that's not even the truth though, and if they were instead quietly asked to not find the receipt, and then staffing changed and that directive got lost in the shuffle. Of course we're deep into Hanlon's Razor territory then.
FTFY
I believe that should read
(I joke, somewhat, but the entire culture of policing is the fundamental problem here and desperately has to entirely change, and until it does I feel it's fair to blame all police officers for it.)
Worried about listening to this
I've sometimes disagreed with Godwin, but I've always liked him. I worry after listening to him arguing for this that might not be possible anymore.
Solution
The solution is obvious: print in Canada! At least until the next time we sign a trade treaty with y'all and inevitably "harmonize" on this.
Half measure
It'd be a good first step, but to fully fix policing we first need to fire all of them, otherwise the toxic culture will persist. Then we can start slowly and carefully hiring new police, while prioritizing providing funding and other support for community-run organizations instead of "traditional" policing.
Re: Re: Re: Re: 'Legislation? Bah, I'm a judge, that doesn't con
Funny enough, you never see the folks complaining about "activist judges" come out of the woodwork when a judge does something like this for large corporations. Wonder what that's about!
A bit of a repetition there, as Fido is owned by Rogers.
Videotron used to be elsewhere in Canada, but gave up and now operates only in Quebec as far as I know.
I see Telus and Shaw (the remaining big ISPs) decided to take no position on these matters, which is at least better than enthusiastically consenting to them I guess.
And that's basically all the ISPs we actually have here in Canada. Good on Teksavvy for once again being the sole ISP we have here to actually stand up for its customers and the proper functioning of the internet.
Re: Re: Re: I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Yeah, by the 2012 election it was pretty clear that Obama's political approach and policies (already a bit insufficient even in their campaign-promise incarnation when he ran in 2008) were not worth even voting for, much less supporting or apologizing for. I can't actually remember who I voted for in 2012 myself (it certainly wasn't Romney) but it wasn't Obama.
Re: "Theorem"
Yeah, there's no formal logic proof provided here, and that's why Mike said
Sounds about right
Having been accosted by police for having the temerity to take a photo myself, and then having gone through their report about the 'incident', that sounds about right. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's about the average for any police report, if they were actually thoroughly checked instead of taken as gospel like they usually are.
Re: 'We don't really do 'news' at the NYT these days.'
To be fair, there's a lot they wouldn't publish. Something very left-wing, or overly critical of D.C. power structures such that it might threaten their access? Never.
The section that needs reform is the NYT opinions section
Seriously, the world would be better off without the NYT opinions section at this point. Hell, it's getting to the level at which it's calling into question whether the New York Times itself is worth saving.
Matter of philosophy and legal conception
Well sure; and I would broadly agree with you. But the EU court's conception does have "protection of personal data" as a fundamental right. So they aren't balancing fundamental rights against unfundamental ones, at least in their conception. The U.S., for better or worse, has a very different philosophical/legal tradition on this.
So really the idea you're (perhaps quite rightly) objecting to isn't balancing fundamental rights against non-fundamental ones, but rather that "protection of personal data" is being put into the category of fundamental rights by the EU legal system(s).
Sorry to nitpick! But these are very important and potentially nuanced debates to have, and it doesn't help if different sides talk past eachother.
Cheers :)
Re: Re: Mastodon / The Fediverse
I think there's a degree to which Mastodon, and the other interoperable ActivityPub-based software that makes up The Fediverse, is about as decentralized as is practical currently (ex. people expect instant access from such services, which isn't really possible if things are fully decentralized, particularly considering many people live on their phones these days and that's not really going to be a node on a network of the desired caliber). And there's moves to flesh out the protocol to give individual users more control and portability, particularly on the Pleroma side (the Mastodon folks don't seem quite as interested, perhaps because they tend to run larger instances), so with time it might grow more into what you're looking for. It's beneficial for a service/approach/etc to have a fully-functional implementation that people can use already in the here and now, which is I think a big reason why The Fediverse has been succeeding so far where many more idealistic and more decentralized (but otherwise very similar) attempts have failed.
Just buy a computer monitor, or a projector
Admittedly even some projectors are shipping with 'smart' OSes these days, but you can still buy just-a-display, you just can't buy a "TV" that is one.
More like a true positive, amiright?
Yeah, Masnick is right in a broader sense to bring up the impossibility of large-scale content moderation without false positives, but in this specific case of flagging Republican politicians as identical content to those from Neo-Nazis, that's not actually an inaccurate result.
Re: Missed
Read this out to my officemate and we both very literally laughed out loud; well played. This certainly deserves first place in the funniest comments of this week, and sure has my vote!