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  • Mar 25th, 2021 @ 9:20am

    Re: Re:

    I lean more to PaulT's view, rather than to Stephen's. But Paul's final two or three sentences will be the telling point - to be viable (nee "liable"), the platform will have to pay for itself, because it's sure as Gawd made little green apples that Trump won't pay a bleeping penny towards the bills to run the thing. He's expecting that his name will automagically make all mundane things like utilities, hosting services, and all that, just "pay for themselves", out of thin air. And when the users don't pony up either in direct donations, or in buying advertised products (for a cut, of course), then he'll just simply declare bankruptcy, and start another service.

    In fact, to avoid S.230 lawsuits, he might get the bright idea to simply start and host his service outside of the USA borders in the first place. He'll escape culpability by saying he's "simply leasing my name to the service", or some such. And the "royalty" checks for that lease won't go directly to him, they'll go to his PAC, to become indiscernible from all the other dark money flowing into their coffers.

  • Mar 25th, 2021 @ 8:58am

    Re: Re:

    It's simple, Mike. I'm saying, in the same written form as the posting, that Copia is attempting to interject their views on how a business should perform. In my view, they aren't asking Business X to review and take under advisement "these things", they are expressing in no uncertain terms that Business X should (nearly must) execute on these bullet-list items. As i said, they could be doing this in a positive manner, i.e. politely asking for a sit-down to discuss the various concerns.

    But I do admit, for all I know, they might be playing nice with the big boys, and the postings are simply abridged in such a manner as to make it look like they're..... curt, that's the word I'm looking for. As in, not abrupt or rude, simply not nuanced - curt describes that nicely. If that's the case, please let me/us know, and I'll gladly retract my statements and sentiments.

  • Mar 25th, 2021 @ 8:41am


    everyone else will be preparing for the uptick in sales from neighbouring states.

    I'm betting that the $10 will simply be added to the retail price of all phones sold in Utah, meaning that not only can an adult deactivate the filter, he/she gets to pay for the privilege of doing so. Not a good business model, but it's probably cheaper than the phone companies getting together and suing the state. The one thing the Utah legislature knows is that being stupid is not a crime. Just imagine if it were......

    If I were a phone retail seller, I'd be setting up shop about 100 feet over the border line in every direction, and making it clear to all and sundry that "our phones are not filtered", or something similar. And I'd advertise in the Salt Lace City Tribune, until the legislature makes advertising such a crime in itself. But radio? TV? And Lowered know, that whole Internet thingie?? Yeah', this is gonna work out juuuust fiiiine.

  • Mar 25th, 2021 @ 8:20am

    Re: If that law ever does become effective...

    The serial number will be on a label, somewhere... be it under the back cover, or even under the battery, it's be somewhere. Or if one knows how to get into the phone's settings, it'll be part of the System details.

    A better idea would be to require the entry of the last 20 digits of Pi - that'll slow 'em down a tad!

  • Mar 24th, 2021 @ 7:06pm

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    Copia Institute frequently tries to "file an Amicus Curiae brief" with other businesses.

    Decisions to be made by Copia:

    see below

    Questions and policy implications to consider:

    see below


    Copia could do a better job of trying to sway leaders of other businesses/sites to their way of seeing things. For example: Instead of "Things to consider", which is rightfully taken as "Hey dummy, you didn't anticipate this, didya?", Copia might say "We have some insight we'd like to share with you, Mr. Business Owner, could we make some time to get together, please?"

    IOW, it's the old 'honey rather than vinegar' trick, I'm sure you understand.

    And yes, I'm not afraid to sign my name to this, I've felt this way since Copia's first post of this nature. I don't doubt for a minute that their intentions are good, but the way they're going about it just strikes me as pretty near to picking a fight, and not a way that one engages in meaningful discussion.

  • Mar 24th, 2021 @ 1:28pm


    (I posted an earlier response, but it was held for moderation. Whether or not it comes back, we'll see.)

    There's a lot discuss about "the worst people problem", but I want to leave that for now (vis-a-vis my earlier post), and deal with "lot of attention" and "potential for growth". It seems to me that #45''s got immediate access to more than 70 million Americans that are slavishly sitting in his pews, plus a fair number of journalists, analysts, and "just curious" looky-loos. The latter grouping will likely stick it out for as long as possible, but the former group, aye, there's the rub.

    I think, without any real evidence besides my "feelz", that it will take a long time to burn through that large a number of adherents. IMO, the number of people who will get bored and leave will be small at first, and the acceleration rate of departures over time will not increase either. That's going to come down to the hardcore 20-50 most zealous acolytes repeating the Daily Mantra for all to see, and the rest of the board's population will simply not see any reason to move on elsewhere. After all, it's really going to come down to confirmation bias. IMO, of course.

  • Mar 24th, 2021 @ 10:15am

    Re: Do you think a MONTHLY 'Unlimited' plan isn't LIMITED?


    Ya know buddy, some of us are reaching for the Troll button right about now....

    It might be a sign of good faith on your part if you were to not set up Mike as a straw man for ad hominem attacks, and instead present arguments that go directly to the point of the current discussion. My mouse finger might stop twitching so violently as I desparately want to hit that magic red button.

  • Mar 24th, 2021 @ 10:02am


    our little words: the “worst people” problem.

    It's called "positive reinforcement", but in the collective opinion of the majority of the world (and particularly the USA), it will be of a negative nature. That will serve only to point out all the more easily just exactly who failed to grow up and learn to think for him/herself.

    The platform's mission will be to instill an even stronger sense of community, and reinvigorate the call to "restore the real president to his rightful seat", etc. yadda yadda, so on and so forth. Under current Twitter/Facebook rules, that's not a likely scenario, hence the annoucement - to whet appetites of the mental-toddlers for yet more bullshit..... errrr, conversations about how to put their Beloved Leader For Life back on his throne.

  • Mar 24th, 2021 @ 9:53am


    And what will the hackers do? Anything they might do would be an improvement, I'm sure. After all, how can you "deface" a site that already has the world's most ugly face??

  • Mar 19th, 2021 @ 8:39am

    Re: Re: Cricut?

    The OP meant a lawsuit over the name - Cricut vs. Cricket.

  • Mar 18th, 2021 @ 5:27pm

    Re: Banking, Netflix, & Chill

    the next time Congress calls "Internet companies" to DC to sit in front of some Committee that doesn't understand shit...PLEASE DO NOT MAKE IT THE SAME GAFA COMPANIES

    Do recall that because these companies are the only ones that donate to political campaigns, they are the only ones on any senator's radar. Moral of the story: if you don't give them cash, they won't know you exist. Further moral: stay small, and/or hide your profits so that they don't know how big you actually are, and thus will escape their notice.

  • Mar 18th, 2021 @ 5:21pm

    Re: Couldn’t Websites just put there servers in other countrie

    In a word, nope.

    As written, if you're living within the confines of American soil, then it doesn't matter where any servers sit - if you are in control in some fashion, whether by actual and direct administration, or merely as a financial underpinning, you are required to obey the laws of this land. And it doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not, You Will Obey.

  • Mar 18th, 2021 @ 10:46am

    (untitled comment)

    I don't have any sites to add, indeed I'm surprised at just how many I've never heard of before, and seemingly more than one person here regards them as a viable candidate for test purposes. But I do want to say that this is going to drive into full fruition Mike's plea for moving to protocols instead of services. I think he's on the correct track with that idea.

    Oh, and remember Steve Case, know who he is/was? That's right, he was the head honcho of AOL, and now you'll recall that once upon a time, AOL thought to induce people into thinking that they were The Internet, full stop right there. When people figured out what he was up to, that came crashing down in a record 15 or 20 microseconds of Internet time, which equates to perhaps half an hour in real time. This new idea of regulation will involve "Government Time ", which as we all know is about 200x slower than real time, so the crap will last for perhaps 6 months, but rest assured, it won't ever get on a good solid footing, too many lawyers will see to that in innumerable court cases... for the reasons mentioned above.

    And offshore websites will have to toe the line as well, because American sites have to fall in line with any EU regulation governing the Internet. Tit for tat, and all that. (Me personally, were I an American-based site, I'd tell the EU to get bent. But that's just me.)

    All I can say is "fun and games for everyone!". But in the end, the only ones who will profit are, of course, the lawyers. Jesus Christ on a jumped-up Pogo stick, how did we ever come to this state of affairs?

  • Mar 17th, 2021 @ 4:43pm


    Sorry, somehow the above reply got posted as a standalone reply to the article, and not as a reply directed towards to Koby - my fault, I'm sure. But the message of the post stands.

  • Mar 17th, 2021 @ 4:37pm

    (untitled comment)

    big tech has come to monopolize public discourse

    BUZZZT Wrong answer.

    No, "big tech" is not monopolizing our public discourse, unless you consider some news media sites to be "big tech". Though I'll grant you that "big tech", as a topic of discussion, is sure as hell taking the majority of time in our daily discoursing, that's true. But if you look at it carefully, you'll soon realize that some people are very cunningly not including "big media" in the "big tech" discussion. Such willful distraction is exactly why folks like you have made the statement you did.

    Don't worry, I don't blame you a bit, it's just a natural reaction when skilled operators are steering the discussion. A hint: always look for the hidden agenda behind the curtain. That's where you'll always find the little man, and you can be sure that his agenda will not coincide with yours.

  • Mar 17th, 2021 @ 3:15pm

    Re: section 230 aka section 420

    Only 50,000? You are generous to a fault, I must say. I'd make it 2 orders of magnitude greater, and even then, I'm pretty sure that number would fall short.

  • Mar 17th, 2021 @ 3:13pm

    Re: Question for Mike:

    Parts of it, yes. But if it's crafted like most bills, any parts that are struck down by the courts will still leave the rest intact and enforceable. Witness the CDA and Obamacare, for two recent examples.

  • Mar 17th, 2021 @ 3:10pm


    National Commission on Internet Regulation

    Say the fuck WHAT?!?!

    How about we have NO internet regulation, and the bad actors can just keep on pissing, whining and moaning when the rest of us call them out. Either they'll eventually get the memo, or else they'll be shut out of society's advancements, and to my way of thinking, they'll have only themselves to blame. This is one time that Government, big or not-so-big, won't be able to save them from their own stupidity, no matter how hard they might try.

  • Mar 16th, 2021 @ 6:24pm

    (untitled comment)

    The beauty here is that because there was no "split second to make a decision", and in fact there's a long trail of habitual behavior, these factors will add up to there being reason to grant "Qualified Immunity" to these ass-clowns. And to do it right, the suit needs to include current and past County Council members who also knew about this, and did nothing about it. That would be accountability.

  • Mar 16th, 2021 @ 6:15pm

    Re: Re:

    Just because they've also had more than a decade of abusing broken software, that doesn't mean that you should be bringing Microsoft into this discussion, eh?

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